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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 26, 2015 15:31:10 GMT
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Post by zippy on Oct 26, 2015 15:45:53 GMT
... and breathing and drinking water isn't too good for you either..
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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 26, 2015 19:33:45 GMT
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 27, 2015 8:12:12 GMT
Yes, the whole thing is overblown.
To put it into perspective ....
"The IARC ... cited an estimate from the Global Burden of Disease Project - an international consortium of more than 1,000 researchers - that 34,000 cancer deaths per year worldwide are attributable to diets high in processed meat.
This compares with about 1 million cancer deaths per year globally due to tobacco smoking and 600,000 a year due to alcohol consumption"
There are far more dangerous things around that are regularly consumed.
This risks from processed meat have been blown way out of proportion.
And I suspect that here in the UK we eat far less processed meat than most of of European neighbours - German smoked sausages, salamis etc.
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 27, 2015 18:11:31 GMT
Thought I remembered it higher.... WebMD says Colorectal Cancer is 2nd only to lung cancer and above breast cancer 2. Colorectal Cancer U.S. deaths in 2014: 50,310 How common is it? About 1 in 20 people in the U.S. will get colorectal cancer at some point in their lives. What puts people at risk? Age is one reason. Your chances of getting colon cancer rise as you get older. You’re also more likely to get it if it runs in your family, you have more than three alcoholic drinks a day, you smoke, or you’re obese. www.webmd.com/cancer/features/top-cancer-killers?page=3WHO don't mentioning breathing or drinking (clean) water as being any sort of problem Make up your own mind from the data presented |
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Post by Barrington on Oct 27, 2015 18:52:09 GMT
As much as I bang on about process foods its so difficult to avoid them , convenience is the reason. Alternative is to go to morning market for fresh produce and spend all day preparing the evening meal  Come to think of it I hardly eat any of the meat in the report but have some other stuff now and then  |
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 27, 2015 19:42:20 GMT
I don't smoke, I barely drink, I eat mostly fresh food -- I'm gonna live forever !!  |
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Post by Barrington on Oct 27, 2015 20:31:12 GMT
I don't smoke, I barely drink, I eat mostly fresh food -- I'm gonna live forever !! Cue Freddie............... |
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Post by Tim on Oct 27, 2015 23:26:53 GMT
As much as I bang on about process foods its so difficult to avoid them , convenience is the reason. Alternative is to go to morning market for fresh produce and spend all day preparing the evening meal Come to think of it I hardly eat any of the meat in the report but have some other stuff now and then All day to cook a meal? . . . . convenience idleness is the reason. We have so many things now to make life easier, we have lost the ability to do anything except get lardy, watch TV, waste hours on social media - the list goes on. The UK consumes more 'ready meals' than the entire EU combined. That's not convenience and the end result is an ever growing population and I don't mean in numbers! Just my 2 cents  |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 28, 2015 0:11:31 GMT
Yes, how often do you hear people whose job it is to sell you things tell you that we all lead such busy lives? A lot, I think.
This is calculated to make you think it's OK to eat shite.
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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 28, 2015 2:15:33 GMT
I don't smoke, I barely drink, I eat mostly fresh food -- I'm gonna live forever !! Nah! You'll live a normal lifespan, it's just gonna seem like forever  |
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Post by Stratmangler on Oct 28, 2015 2:24:06 GMT
Thought I remembered it higher.... WebMD says Colorectal Cancer is 2nd only to lung cancer and above breast cancer 2. Colorectal Cancer U.S. deaths in 2014: 50,310 How common is it? About 1 in 20 people in the U.S. will get colorectal cancer at some point in their lives. What puts people at risk? Age is one reason. Your chances of getting colon cancer rise as you get older. You’re also more likely to get it if it runs in your family, you have more than three alcoholic drinks a day, you smoke, or you’re obese. www.webmd.com/cancer/features/top-cancer-killers?page=3WHO don't mentioning breathing or drinking (clean) water as being any sort of problem Make up your own mind from the data presented There's one major dietary difference between the USA and Europe with regard to meat, and that is that it's accepted practice in the USA to use antibiotics in food animals for infection control, and growth hormones are commonly used too. It's not the case in Europe. GM crops are also par for the course stateside. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 28, 2015 6:58:36 GMT
I don't eat a great deal of meat, but thankfully the butchers' section at my local Morrisons is absolutely superb. When I want to make a stroganoff or a stir-fry, I buy their best fillet steak and do it in style. If there's one thing I cannot stand is dodgy quality meat.
You can prepare and cook a really good stir fry from steak, vegetables, noodles and chilli sauce/hoisin/whatever in about 20 minutes. Marinate the steak earlier in the day in balsamic vinegar and it tastes even better.
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 28, 2015 7:44:00 GMT
I don't smoke, I barely drink, I eat mostly fresh food -- I'm gonna live forever !! Nah! You'll live a normal lifespan, it's just gonna seem like forever I just knew someone was going to say that. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 28, 2015 8:04:36 GMT
Antibiotics are used in the UK. Think growth hormones are too That's in the animals. Processing is another, er process and that's what the WHO report is about. UK seems much the same "Almost half of all deaths from cancer are from lung, bowel, breast or prostate cancers, 2012, UK," from www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/mortality#heading-ZeroThe industry has a vested interest in processed as it use up the parts you don't like the look of, plus of course it is an industry employing many |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 28, 2015 8:12:18 GMT
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 28, 2015 9:04:59 GMT
From what I understand it (through hearing one of the people who was involved in the research speaking) the point is that they accept that the risk in extremely minimal but the evidence for that minimal risk is strong. Surely, the whole thing is a media whipped up pile of nothingness?  |
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Post by Barrington on Oct 28, 2015 10:09:30 GMT
As much as I bang on about process foods its so difficult to avoid them , convenience is the reason. Alternative is to go to morning market for fresh produce and spend all day preparing the evening meal All day to cook a meal? . . . . convenience idleness is the reason. No all day to prepare.......................then shove it in the miccy |
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 28, 2015 17:03:44 GMT
Surely, the whole thing is a media whipped up pile of nothingness? Exactly .... "Damn, no real news, we need a headline for today and something to make a fuss about .... so let's exaggerate and lie and misdirect ...." They all do it, not just the red-tops.  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 29, 2015 8:36:06 GMT
WHO and BBC are hardly The Sun.
It's a warning for those who eat a lot of processed meat.
Also covered in some scientific detail on Trust me I a Doctor on the Beeb
I only mentioned it as I thought it was under the radar. I don't watch much normal news
Is is big news now ?
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