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Post by Guest on Sept 27, 2015 14:45:54 GMT
I acquired these speakers yesterday and I'm not sure anyone will believe me when I say how I've found them! They sound like floor standing monitors if you shut your eyes, yet their dimensions are 24cm tall by 15cm wide!!!!! At the back f the cabinets is some sort of weird screw device that makes the speakers produce thunderous bass from a 9cm woofer!!! They also have a super tweeter that is ridiculous value to me considering I got the speakers for £10:00!!!    |
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Post by John on Sept 27, 2015 16:42:47 GMT
I think we probably have different definations of thunderous bass but glad you enjoying them in the end that is the bit that counts
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 27, 2015 17:24:30 GMT
What have we got here then? Two opposing bass drivers with the rear one firing at an adjustable back plate?
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Post by MartinT on Sept 27, 2015 18:12:32 GMT
Looks like it. Probably working in opposition with, as you say, an adjustable port.
However, the cabinet dimensions will make it necessarily limited. The bass will probably be like that from an LS3/5a, with doubling giving the impression of deep bass.
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Post by Chris on Sept 29, 2015 3:24:32 GMT
Always good to find kit you are happy with for a decent price. Enjoy!
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Post by Guest on Sept 29, 2015 10:59:55 GMT
I think we probably have different definations of thunderous bass but glad you enjoying them in the end that is the bit that counts definition, producing thunder or a loud noise like thunder |
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Post by Guest on Sept 29, 2015 11:01:28 GMT
Looks like it. Probably working in opposition with, as you say, an adjustable port. However, the cabinet dimensions will make it necessarily limited. The bass will probably be like that from an LS3/5a, with doubling giving the impression of deep bass. I heard some LS3/5a's in the past, I find the Axial Drive bassier, but then it could be the partnering equipment I suppose. |
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Post by Guest on Sept 29, 2015 11:03:25 GMT
Looks like it. Probably working in opposition with, as you say, an adjustable port. However, the cabinet dimensions will make it necessarily limited. The bass will probably be like that from an LS3/5a, with doubling giving the impression of deep bass. Am I right in remembering that the LS3's had light wood effect too? These speakers appeal to my aesthetic sensibilities more. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 29, 2015 12:22:35 GMT
The LS3/5a came in a variety of finishes from black to various woods.
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Post by Guest on Sept 29, 2015 14:38:53 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Sept 29, 2015 16:45:59 GMT
I'm sorry but you really cannot compare the two, they are designed for completely different markets at different price points. If you like the JVCs, then that's a great outcome.
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Post by Guest on Sept 30, 2015 11:43:32 GMT
I'm sorry but you really cannot compare the two, they are designed for completely different markets at different price points. If you like the JVCs, then that's a great outcome. Well actually MartinT, it was you who brought the Rodgers up. I know they were created for studio use, rather than home systems, is that your point? Horses for courses, yes? |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 30, 2015 12:18:41 GMT
I brought it up as an example of speakers that don't have true deep bass. I don't particularly like small speakers myself.
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Post by Guest on Oct 1, 2015 9:47:12 GMT
I brought it up as an example of speakers that don't have true deep bass. I don't particularly like small speakers myself. No, neither do I. I bought the Victors because I had a finite space in their location, great news though, they sound big!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 14:45:56 GMT
I hate to be a pedant, but JVC is the Japan Victor Company or to be precise the Victor Company of Japan. As a former exec of the company I hate to see it described as Jaoanese Victor Company, it's just not accurate. As for the speakears in question, they are lower to middle range A/V speakers, really nothing special to be honest, glad they hit the spot for you.
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Post by Guest on Oct 9, 2015 7:37:22 GMT
Always good to find kit you are happy with for a decent price. Enjoy! I am still a flat earth man you see Chris, having proved it to myself over and over again with any number of items of equipment. Any speaker can be made to sound great given a superb source. A speaker just makes the music loud enough for the human ear, if the source is quality, it will sound quality, if the source is shocking a good speaker will sound lousy. If your turntable does not get the best signal from your LP no amount of brilliant amplification and speakers will ever get it back. I don't understand when folks say speakers are important. Source is the thing, lost information is not retrievable by equipment at any price. I used an thousand pound turntable into an 800 pound amplifier and the Victor Corps were exceptional.  Now to get these little beauties on song! |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 9, 2015 7:57:19 GMT
Gosh, that's an interesting viewpoint.
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Post by pre65 on Oct 9, 2015 8:23:16 GMT
Gosh, that's an interesting viewpoint. 
Ivor Tiefenbrun from Linn was stating that when I were a lad. 
There is merit in what he says.
"Linn Products Limited was started by Tiefenbrun in the city's Castlemilk district near Linn Park in 1972 to manufacture a hi-fi turntable, developed from his personal interest in music reproduction, based on contemporary models. His approach was to try getting more information off the long-play gramophone record (otherwise known as the LP), and making the turntable immune to audio feedback – he successfully discovered a marketing story very different from the prevalent view in the hi-fi industry at that time.[3] The end product was the Linn Sondek LP12, which remained an industry benchmark for at least three decades.[4][5]
In the early years, Tiefenbrun hawked the turntable around shops in a crusade against the received wisdom that all turntables sounded the same. Tiefenbrun also battled the thinking, since Edgar Villchur, that the loudspeakers were the most important, instead asserting primacy of "the front end", saying that the quality of sound of the source was key. Once information was lost, distorted or corrupted, was gone forever and could never be corrected; that garbage in equalled garbage out.[6] Those few dealers who wanted to listen to it did, and heard a difference. By the end of the 1970s, his views had gained significant ground, large numbers of dealers and audiophiles had by then accepted this as the norm in the United Kingdom and around the world." |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 9, 2015 11:04:29 GMT
For me, Tiefenbrun's simple message was GIGO, which is obvious and fair enough, as far as it goes. But taking a superb front end and linking it with mediocre speakers is going to get you one result: mediocre sound. Like all of these rules of thumb, you can only go so far with them.
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 9, 2015 13:56:54 GMT
Gosh, that's an interesting viewpoint.
Ivor Tiefenbrun from Linn was stating that when I were a lad. :D
There is merit in what he says.
There is some truth and logic in what IT said. However, what he did not say is that speakers are so unimportant that anything will do. Nor did he say that any speaker can sound great. Our friend guest is stretching the logic somewhat beyond its point of elasticity, I would venture! |
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