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Post by Slinger on Aug 1, 2015 16:11:21 GMT
I was tempted to post this in the Windows 10 thread as we're talking about privacy, or rather the lack of it there, but thought a new post might be in order rather than drag the post sideways....Privacy? Got a supermarket loyalty card? Use a credit or debit card for your groceries? LINKLINKThere's no such thing as privacy these days unless you're prepared to go completely off the grid, which probably involves eating a lot of berries and insects whilst living in a cave.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 1, 2015 16:57:53 GMT
Can't be sure but I reckon they will work out I'm a vegetarian cheapskate  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 1, 2015 17:04:27 GMT
Yes, I know. I think we lost most of our privacy a long time ago, it's been insidious. What about tracking your whereabouts via your car sat-nav, your phone, debit card use etc? Online shopping habits are now sold en-mass. Although I don't want a police state any more than the next person, it seems that only the very bad people with access to serious resources are able to truly 'disappear'. The rest of us leave a trail as bright as daylight.
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Post by Clive on Aug 1, 2015 22:44:08 GMT
Contactless payments, which we can't contract out of are the latest scam. Pretty much real time tracking.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 2, 2015 8:15:09 GMT
I read an article some time ago about someone who slipped and injured themselves on a spillage in a supermarket. Seeking compensation, they contacted the company who replied that, as they knew exactly how much alcohol the person bought (due to their being a member of a loyalty card scheme), they would use that information to defend themselves if it came to court. i.e. The customer fell over because they must have been inebriated.
I can't remember which supermarket it was supposed to have been but it was in the UK and the quantity of alcohol that was quoted was nothing outrageous.
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Post by dvh on Aug 2, 2015 8:41:13 GMT
I read an article some time ago about someone who slipped and injured themselves on a spillage in a supermarket. Seeking compensation, they contacted the company who replied that, as they knew exactly how much alcohol the person bought (due to their being a member of a loyalty card scheme), they would use that information to defend themselves if it came to court. i.e. The customer fell over because they must have been inebriated. I can't remember which supermarket it was supposed to have been but it was in the UK and the quantity of alcohol that was quoted was nothing outrageous. I'd have sued the fuckers anyway. How could they prove inebriation based on purchases of alcohol? |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 2, 2015 8:46:42 GMT
Yes, someone should have challenged them.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 2, 2015 8:52:12 GMT
I don't know what the outcome was, unfortunately.
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Post by Chris on Aug 2, 2015 12:43:29 GMT
I read an article some time ago about someone who slipped and injured themselves on a spillage in a supermarket. Seeking compensation, they contacted the company who replied that, as they knew exactly how much alcohol the person bought (due to their being a member of a loyalty card scheme), they would use that information to defend themselves if it came to court. i.e. The customer fell over because they must have been inebriated. I can't remember which supermarket it was supposed to have been but it was in the UK and the quantity of alcohol that was quoted was nothing outrageous. I'd have sued the fuckers anyway. How could they prove inebriation based on purchases of alcohol? They would pinpoint what time you bought the booze at and if it was close enough to your fall IMPLY strongly you were drunk. Paying cash wouldn't have helped either - they'd track you back through cameras. The REALLY annoying thing in all this is that data protection laws are broken willy nilly with no consequences whatsoever. www.gov.uk/data-protection/the-data-protection-actjust think how many of these,generally,don't apply. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 2, 2015 13:42:51 GMT
The REALLY annoying thing in all this is that data protection laws are broken willy nilly with no consequences whatsoever. I'm working very hard to ensure that my company complies. It's a serious minefield and the penalties, now that the EU Data Regulation is about to be ratified, are stiff. The implications for the way that we deal with personal student data, especially with laptops and devices leaving the premises every day, not to mention remote access via home computers, are far-reaching. It's what keeps me awake at nights. |
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Post by dvh on Aug 3, 2015 9:30:46 GMT
I'd have sued the fuckers anyway. How could they prove inebriation based on purchases of alcohol? They would pinpoint what time you bought the booze at and if it was close enough to your fall IMPLY strongly you were drunk. Paying cash wouldn't have helped either - they'd track you back through cameras. Saying/implying that purchasing alcohol means that you 'must' have been drunk, otherwise you wouldn't have fallen, is libellous without evidence to support the allegation. Camera evidence of you behaving in a drunken manner before falling is different. |
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Post by zippy on Aug 3, 2015 9:55:35 GMT
Look at the positive side though - I've just done my shopping at Tesco.com and because they log all my purchases I pretty much only had to tell them to repeat my last order with a few changes.
I really don't care if they know that I prefer recycled toilet rolls or cheap honey.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 3, 2015 9:57:24 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 3, 2015 11:40:38 GMT
I don't care if they think (know) I'm a cheapskate
Stuff with a very long use buy date I buy by the truckload when it's half price - suckers I say !
Meridian peanut butter is wonderful stuff anyway. Half price ? yes I'll take a load
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Post by roxbrough on Aug 13, 2015 20:17:09 GMT
Robin Trower eh?
Great choice.
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Post by roxbrough on Aug 14, 2015 12:39:26 GMT
The naivety of Facebook users never ceases to amaze me.
I always smile when someone posts that they are going on holiday.
As prisoners are now allowed lap tops in their cells it's sort of like advertising for burglars.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 14, 2015 12:42:16 GMT
Do prisoners get out much?!
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Post by roxbrough on Aug 14, 2015 12:53:30 GMT
They are bailed all the time ChrisB and the leniency has recently been increased to avoid prison overcrowding.
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Post by jamescg1972 on Aug 14, 2015 18:58:22 GMT
Contactless payments, which we can't contract out of are the latest scam. Pretty much real time tracking. How's that then? i assume you don't mean by paying contact less, as it wouldn't matter how you pay (I.e. What method you used to pay by card). how are people tracking you by the fact you have your card with you? |
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Post by stanleyb on Aug 14, 2015 19:32:41 GMT
Contactless payments, which we can't contract out of are the latest scam. Pretty much real time tracking. How's that then? i assume you don't mean by paying contact less, as it wouldn't matter how you pay (I.e. What method you used to pay by card). how are people tracking you by the fact you have your card with you? Each card has a code that identifies the owner. The code can be read by security devices placed in many shops. Some of those devices are there to normally read the code off items leaving the shop. That information is used to track stolen items, but to also track the speed of sales of certain items. There are lot of security systems in use that are not known to the public. One is your modern mobile phone! It can be controlled by a third party even if it if switched off. |
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