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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 15:57:12 GMT
Like many people, I'm frustrated by threads constantly being driven "out of bounds" and ending up with pedantic arguments about trivia. So far today, I went to view an EBay listings thread to find nothing remotely related had been posted, despite several "contributions".
Next I went to the Grand Prix Tonearm thread and again there is nothing remotely related to the title, despite several posts.
my suggestion is that any member playing the thread "out of bounds" is notified on that very thread. They then have to try to play back "on course" and not indulge in further non-topic posts. Any further "out of bounds" contributions would be penalised.
Im not talking here about the odd bit of friendly banter or a bit of gentle thread drift if somebody has a Related and reasonable question or point. I am referring to repeated attempts to take threads into conflict, often not remotely related to the subject matter. I feel we have suffered enough. In fact I think we reached that point long ago.
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Post by danielquinn on Jun 1, 2015 16:09:03 GMT
My suggestion us you stop reading the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 16:11:53 GMT
I have every right to read threads that have a topic that interests me. I also feel I have a right to expect they are kept on topic and not usurped by anyone looking for an argument. I think your post here amply demonstrates my point about people looking for conflict, so thank you for that.
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Post by danielquinn on Jun 1, 2015 16:17:02 GMT
Actually if you distilled your posts on this subject they can be paraphrased as
I Do Not Like Some posts what can we do to eliminate them.
Forums are free set up your own with your own rules or accept difference. You have no expectation rights nobody deos
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 16:23:14 GMT
So let us explore your view that I should simply stop reading:
I am a regular EBay buyer. I look on an "Interesting EBay listings thread". I find you yet again indulging in arguments that have nothing to do with EBay or listings and certainly aren't interesting. I am simply to stop reading so that you can continue indulging in your pointless semantic arguments with anyone who hasn't added you to their ignore list yet?
Do you seriously think a forum can survive if it has a member who disrupts, derails and steers into conflict thread after thread? Readers will switch off and give up viewing the threads. Before long, they will give up posting and then perhaps visiting the site altogether.
Is that really what you are recommending? I would think anyone proposing such a thing would perhaps not have the good of the forum, it's readers or its contributors at heart.
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Post by pre65 on Jun 1, 2015 16:25:20 GMT
I agree with Singularity on this one. 
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Post by danielquinn on Jun 1, 2015 16:52:50 GMT
So let us explore your view that I should simply stop reading: I am a regular EBay buyer. I look on an "Interesting EBay listings thread". I find you yet again indulging in arguments that have nothing to do with EBay or listings and certainly aren't interesting. I am simply to stop reading so that you can continue indulging in your pointless semantic arguments with anyone who hasn't added you to their ignore list yet? Do you seriously think a forum can survive if it has a member who disrupts, derails and steers into conflict thread after thread? Readers will switch off and give up viewing the threads. Before long, they will give up posting and then perhaps visiting the site altogether. Is that really what you are recommending? I would think anyone proposing such a thing would perhaps not have the good oi f the forum, it's readers or its contributors at heart. You find me one arguement I instigated. I offer an opinion. And it is jumped allover. I merely respond. The point you miss is that managing the flow of a thread is a subjective decision and impractical. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 17:02:44 GMT
You miss the point. I made this suggestion to stop endless pointless semantic arguments. I'm not going to enter into one here with you or this thread will go the way of every one you contribute to. I'm also unlikely to trawl through endless threads you have crapped and trolled all over to fuel yet another conflict. Seems to me you are the core of pretty much all conflict on this forum, whoever else is involved.
I have made my suggestion to prevent steering topics away from their subject matter. I have also said why I feel this trend is bad for the forum. You have made your point that we should just stop reading. Others will undoubtedly give their perspective. Then it is up to those who run the forum to decide if the idea has merit.
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Post by Pinch on Jun 1, 2015 17:27:12 GMT
Just my two cents:
Sure, I can find DQ's posting style a little irritating - though not because I find it 'out of bounds' of off-topic (and I enjoy semantic arguments) - but I'm glad he wasn't banned.
Still, it's not nearly as irritating as the hot messes which tend to unfold when other members decide to get into ill-tempered arguments with him over whatever it is; I agree with you, singularity, that this is disruptive for the forum, but it always takes at least two people.
I've not been to a single forum that didn't have one or two members which I found bothersome. But if we all simply glossed over those posts which riled us, rather than issuing riled responses, then there'd be much less irritating intemperate content for everyone else to wade through.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 17:32:53 GMT
Thanks, Pinch. The "out of bounds" idea would hopefully stop anyone dragging threads off topic and continuing it. Putting someone on your ignore list is pointless if threads still get taken to places that have nothing to do with their subject matter. I have abandoned forums already because of such arguments spoiling threads and this time I have decided to make a stand and try to eradicate what I feel is a destructive trend.
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Post by AlanS on Jun 1, 2015 17:37:35 GMT
I found one contributors style and content added little to my pleasure of the forum. Solution Hide that contributor's post but if there seems to be more than the odd post click the Show option and check out their effort is worth reading.
It is the posts about people rather than what is said that take threads of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 18:00:07 GMT
You mean that I can somehow set a preference to prevent me from seeing danielquinn's posts? That is a feature I must find.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 1, 2015 19:26:52 GMT
Still, it's not nearly as irritating as the hot messes which tend to unfold when other members decide to get into ill-tempered arguments with him over whatever it is; I agree with you, singularity, that this is disruptive for the forum, but it always takes at least two people. I've not been to a single forum that didn't have one or two members which I found bothersome. But if we all simply glossed over those posts which riled us, rather than issuing riled responses, then there'd be much less irritating intemperate content for everyone else to wade through. Tom, that's insightful and exactly what seems to happen here. We all get tempted to snap back because of the trolling and we look bad in doing it, but the trouble is caused by the initiator. |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 1, 2015 19:28:53 GMT
I went to view an EBay listings thread to find nothing remotely related had been posted, despite several "contributions". I'll put my hand up to this one, Aurender and I got diverted into an interesting (for me) discussion of other things. I should have moved us to a new thread, may indeed do that tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 19:31:53 GMT
No worries, Martin. It wasn't the info on clocks that I found frustrating. It was the predictable taking issue with any view posted on any subject in order to create conflict and steer threads out of bounds.
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