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Post by MartinT on Sept 19, 2021 11:29:19 GMT
I'm talking espresso or americano here.
No cow juice in my coffee.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 19, 2021 15:25:46 GMT
Aeropress isn't messy and is the best solution for making coffee for one. However it isn't likely to satisfy someone used to 'proper' cappuccino. What is likely to be the difference ? |
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Sept 19, 2021 16:03:28 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 19, 2021 16:03:28 GMT
As I said earlier, you might be able to make something espresso-ish with an Aeropress but don't expect the same quality. In simple terms it's down to pressure - < 9 bars of pressure is used to create true espresso from an espresso machine. In regular people’s terms, that’s 640 pounds of pressure. The Aeropress, according to the official website, can generate .35 to .75 bars of pressure, which is only 25-50 pounds of pressure. > www.javapresse.com/blogs/aeropress/can-aeropress-make-espresso |
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Post by Slinger on Sept 19, 2021 16:19:08 GMT
Mike, it's probably going to be easier in the long run if you just move house, to somewhere very close to a Costa, or a Starbucks.  |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 19, 2021 16:25:15 GMT
Not Starbucks if you want decent coffee, as opposed to road surfacing.
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Post by Slinger on Sept 19, 2021 16:33:25 GMT
Not Starbucks if you want decent coffee, as opposed to road surfacing. But, he doesn't want "decent" coffee, he wants *shudder* cappuccinos and lattes, and 2/3 caff triple ristretto affogato venti, 2 pump mango 1 pump classic, 2%, mango to the second line, 3 scoops protein, 3 scoops berries, 2 scoop matcha, add banana, double blended, with whip, caramel drizzle, salted caramel topping, vanilla bean *gasp* frappuccinos. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 19, 2021 16:54:26 GMT
But, he doesn't want "decent" coffee, he wants *shudder* cappuccinos and lattesI agree. However, it may not be Mike who wants those  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 19, 2021 18:02:14 GMT
As I said earlier, you might be able to make something espresso-ish with an Aeropress but don't expect the same quality. In simple terms it's down to pressure - < 9 bars of pressure is used to create true espresso from an espresso machine. In regular people’s terms, that’s 640 pounds of pressure. The Aeropress, according to the official website, can generate .35 to .75 bars of pressure, which is only 25-50 pounds of pressure. > www.javapresse.com/blogs/aeropress/can-aeropress-make-espressoWhich translates to taste ? |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 19, 2021 18:03:14 GMT
Mike, it's probably going to be easier in the long run if you just move house, to somewhere very close to a Costa, or a Starbucks. I'll do without coffee rather than move ! |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 19, 2021 18:06:27 GMT
Not Starbucks if you want decent coffee, as opposed to road surfacing. But, he doesn't want "decent" coffee, he wants *shudder* cappuccinos and lattes, and 2/3 caff triple ristretto affogato venti, 2 pump mango 1 pump classic, 2%, mango to the second line, 3 scoops protein, 3 scoops berries, 2 scoop matcha, add banana, double blended, with whip, caramel drizzle, salted caramel topping, vanilla bean *gasp* frappuccinos.Da Boss wants black coffee. Not sure how that translates into the exact type I quite like a coffee - with some soya milk only Not into *black*, hair shirt stuff  |
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Sept 19, 2021 18:25:33 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 19, 2021 18:25:33 GMT
I think we / you need to establish what kind of coffee you want Mike.
Do you want black 'filter style' coffee or do you want a shot of strong espresso?
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Post by MartinT on Sept 19, 2021 18:44:12 GMT
At last, the admission we've all been waiting for. Told you silver looks best. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 19, 2021 18:48:52 GMT
Never compared the two
Boss wants black coffee
I want same with soya milk added
She chose the coffee machine to replace a cafetiere
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 19, 2021 18:59:20 GMT
OK we are at risk of going round in circles.
A cafetiere produces filter style black coffee you can add milk to or drink black.
The machine you have produces a shot of strong espresso coffee.
Both black but totally different in taste, texture, strength and size of drink.
Which does your mrs prefer, assuming she is the major stakeholder in this?
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 19, 2021 19:34:46 GMT
Coffee is for her. Think she prefers the espresso
Didn't know they were that different
Will have a test
Vaguely remember cafetiere was weaker - from years ago
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 19, 2021 19:36:27 GMT
At last, the admission we've all been waiting for. Told you silver looks best. Coffee Coffee Coffee Coffee ! Black system always |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 20, 2021 19:48:05 GMT
For my understanding and get me more of a coffee appreciator From my fairly limited coffee knowledge there appear to be different levels of coffee ranging from Instant through Cafetiere, Filter, Aeropress and at the top Espresso Did I miss any ? If Espresso is 10/10 what are the others ? Instant perhaps 0/10 |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 20, 2021 20:22:20 GMT
They're just processes and anything between cafetiere and espresso maker can make a good coffee.
The coffee, roasting and grind, though, are more important.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 21, 2021 8:34:29 GMT
The boss has spoken for espresso so that looks favourite
There is another level up with a grinder, from beans
Is that worth serious consideration ?
Bearing in mind it may limit the coffee available
Step son has a super duper jobbie that cost £100s I am told
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Sept 21, 2021 11:59:35 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 21, 2021 11:59:35 GMT
That's good Mike, you can start to narrow your search now.
For convenience you won't best an *automatic* Bean-to-cup espresso machine. Fresh beans go in the top, press a button and espresso comes out the bottom. So you get the taste benefit of using whole beans without having to grind them yourself.
To get something fit for purpose you are looking at 400+.
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