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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 11, 2015 13:11:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 16:43:17 GMT
Sitting here with a messed up right hand, wrist and arm, and just 3 months on from a dislocated knee, it's good to know I am fighting off old age whilst picking up cycling injuries!
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 12, 2015 10:14:52 GMT
I take the research that cycling is statistically better for you than the risk of death from accident
Helps I like doing it too so I in't know what I'd do if it was opposite
Recovering from last week's rear ender with bruised right side and scabby knee, recovering neck
4 in 30 years not too bad I guess
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Post by danielquinn on Mar 12, 2015 10:21:50 GMT
4 in 30 years not too bad I guess Only if they are evenly spaced out in time , otherwise it could indicate an increase tendency for accidents
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 12:08:18 GMT
I'm a lifelong runner, now aged 59 with 40,000+ running miles under my belt. I've done my 5th metatarsal twice, turned ankles more times than I can remember, several stress fractures, fell during a fast descent of Helvellyn and ultimately needed a knee op (absolutely OK now), damaged a shoulder when I fell nighttime running at 3am on the ridgeway (OK now). Broke a finger last year competitive running when I went over on a tree root (permanently bent), and finally I've just recovered from a bunch of torn muscles when I slipped on frozen mud in the middle of nowhere - and a very dicey 3.5 mile agonising limp back to the car without seeing a soul, in a cold sweat all the way.
I gave up cycling ten years ago, because falling off at speed hurts a lot more than the above.
But I look pretty good for getting on 60, even if I say it myself.
Our club's oldest runner is now well in his 80's. He celebrated age 80 by running the White Horse half marathon.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 13, 2015 9:25:48 GMT
I was a runner. Surrey county class sprinter and cross country for training in the winter. Had to stop that when I did my knee in. Swimming, don't like water or cycling which I then discovered I love doing.
Collect my Giant TCR 0 today after major parts replacement
Tomorrow should be wonderful, unless it's raining then likely the old Holdsworth.
Deep tissue massage last night which nicely sorted my painful left shoulder and sorted some other minor inggles Feeling good today
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Post by Weecrackpot on Mar 13, 2015 10:47:33 GMT
Reading everybody's injury woes buck me up a bit, been off my bike since late September due to repetitive strain injury to my wrist, can't brake or change gear on my Ergoshift,only been in this dead end job for a year and 9 months down the line, i am done, really showing my age. . . ....but in the main time, bought another project before Christmas, a Dahon Hammerhead for the odd scoot about where a proper bike is not needed, at least i've got that to cheer me up, roll on TDF 2015, that'll cheer me up further.
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Post by Weecrackpot on Mar 13, 2015 11:08:43 GMT
Re-read Craig's injury list makes mine seem o.k.
Going back 4 years now, while out on my 93 vintage Airborne Cosair, shortish ride after late shift, haring back the canal path, i misjudged and clipped one of the gate posts by a ball hair, in a split second i was a passenger, the front end gives and swerves i did a face plant still clipped onto my bike, 2 fellow cyclists came by moments later and sat me up, i was bleeding from my nose and mouth, skin had came off my nose, top lip, bottom lip and chin, where i thought was a couple of stones in my mouth, i spat it out with the blood and infact was my two front tooth, i was covered in blood down my cycling top, my helpers said i was in a bad way and offered to call an ambulance,i said no i wasn't far from home, i just need my breath back and said i just want back on my bike, (Tom Simpson 1967) i guess i was in shock, for 2 weeks i was drinking cold tea through a straw, eating yogurt and rice pudding, my teeth had smashed down on my bottom gums and ulcers had set in, for about a month i was walking gingerly, i was like a car crash victim, the force and weight of my bike had give me the effect of whiplash, my neck,shoulder and ribcage was sore, my left hand was sprained and inside of my right thigh had kinda muscle pull, don't want to babble on,the dental work for the next 6 months was another story.
Was mad at scratching my lovely Titanium Airborn.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 13, 2015 13:02:40 GMT
I know I got off light week before last Waiting at roundabout for a space Just about to go *Bang* Why am I on the ground ? Ah that bloke ran into me from behind All the 1st Aiders in the world seemed to descend + a Fire Service 1st responder- and very many thanks to all of them Ambulance called Bruised elbow, hip and knee also minus a load of skin Lower back and neck not good But pronounced ok Just a back wheel and mudguard on the Holdsworth
Glad to say it was nowhere near as bad as the 2 more serious ones
But it's what we do init ?
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Post by Weecrackpot on Mar 13, 2015 14:31:29 GMT
I know I got off light week before last Waiting at roundabout for a space Just about to go *Bang* Why am I on the ground ? Ah that bloke ran into me from behind All the 1st Aiders in the world seemed to descend + a Fire Service 1st responder- and very many thanks to all of them Ambulance called Bruised elbow, hip and knee also minus a load of skin Lower back and neck not good But pronounced ok Just a back wheel and mudguard on the Holdsworth Glad to say it was nowhere near as bad as the 2 more serious ones But it's what we do init ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes Mike, things we do for the love of Cycling, strangest things for me when i was concussed, i momentarily saw wavy shadowy fingures of the chaps who was helping me just like the Predator movie, now you know where they get their ideas from,from actual incidents. P.s. Holdsworth brings back memories, i'd like to get back to a Flying Scot or a Mercian one day but too many bikes at the moment. P.S.S. how do you include quotes while posting here?, i can't get the hang of it on this forum host, sorry for being stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 17:05:50 GMT
And the above is precisely why I gave up cycling. Any event on a bike hurts, usually a lot. I went through a fractured skull (no hat), a compression fractured elbow, and many bouts of "road rash" by caressing the tarmac before I decided enough was enough and stuck to running.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 19:08:58 GMT
And the above is precisely why I gave up cycling. Any event on a bike hurts, usually a lot. I went through a fractured skull (no hat), a compression fractured elbow, and many bouts of "road rash" by caressing the tarmac before I decided enough was enough and stuck to running. It's surprising how many "offs" and/or near misses you do have as a cyclist. I guess one day I will come unstuck one time too many and decide it's time to quit. I'm not there yet but I can probably count more than a dozen very near misses due to reckless motorists. Most common are those who go charging across roundabouts when I'm right in front of them and have right of way. I've even had idiots coming up the right hand lane and cutting across me to turn left while I'm on the roundabout. ive also had near misses with pedestrians just stepping out in front of me without even looking. They assume no engine sound means it's clear to cross. If you are going downhill, it's very dangerous to try and stop in time. Third most common risk are cars that approach a junction and shoot four feet over the line. I then have to swerve around them to avoid a collision only to find another driver overtaking me and boxing me in. No no wonder some cyclists give up. Whilst the off-road spills are part of the experience with mountain biking, I do worry about the amount of drivers who have almost caused serious accidents.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 13, 2015 19:14:15 GMT
P.S.S. how do you include quotes while posting here?, i can't get the hang of it on this forum host, sorry for being stupid. Use the Quote button in the post. Then position your comments below the quoted section. Sometimes the cursor doesn't want to go to the right place, in which case switch to the BBCode tab and you can position it fine, then switch back to the Preview mode.
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Post by Weecrackpot on Mar 13, 2015 23:12:57 GMT
And the above is precisely why I gave up cycling. Any event on a bike hurts, usually a lot. I went through a fractured skull (no hat), a compression fractured elbow, and many bouts of "road rash" by caressing the tarmac before I decided enough was enough and stuck to running. It's surprising how many "offs" and/or near misses you do have as a cyclist. I guess one day I will come unstuck one time too many and decide it's time to quit. I'm not there yet but I can probably count more than a dozen very near misses due to reckless motorists. Most common are those who go charging across roundabouts when I'm right in front of them and have right of way. I've even had idiots coming up the right hand lane and cutting across me to turn left while I'm on the roundabout. ive also had near misses with pedestrians just stepping out in front of me without even looking. They assume no engine sound means it's clear to cross. If you are going downhill, it's very dangerous to try and stop in time. Third most common risk are cars that approach a junction and shoot four feet over the line. I then have to swerve around them to avoid a collision only to find another driver overtaking me and boxing me in. No no wonder some cyclists give up. Whilst the off-road spills are part of the experience with mountain biking, I do worry about the amount of drivers who have almost caused serious accidents. @craig, thought about giving up many a times, tried running but i just don't enjoy it, no wind in the hair feeling, no poseur factor with colourful jersey and lycra, don't get to explore the country as much as on the bike, people you see jogging don't look like they're enjoying themselves,but most of all the knees will eventually go bad. @singularity, Part of the reason i have migrated to cycle paths is the reason you posted about driver behaviour, some cyclists are our own worst enemy, light jumping and pavement cycling, riding 2/3 abreast on single carriage roads is just stupid, but i find pedestrian are just as bad, time and again i have come across them walking off pavements at junctions when you are turning, i have nearly hit them a couple of times,it's a if cyclists don't count or they could stop, same on canal paths, some will not move slightly to let you buy or if from face on, they keep walking together taking up the whole path till you unclip and put your foot down, then the begrudged single file ensues, not conscientious at all. @martin, think your tip worked, thanks.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 14, 2015 9:57:18 GMT
I know I got off light week before last Waiting at roundabout for a space Just about to go *Bang* Why am I on the ground ? Ah that bloke ran into me from behind All the 1st Aiders in the world seemed to descend + a Fire Service 1st responder- and very many thanks to all of them Ambulance called Bruised elbow, hip and knee also minus a load of skin Lower back and neck not good But pronounced ok Just a back wheel and mudguard on the Holdsworth Glad to say it was nowhere near as bad as the 2 more serious ones But it's what we do init ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes Mike, things we do for the love of Cycling, strangest things for me when i was concussed, i momentarily saw wavy shadowy fingures of the chaps who was helping me just like the Predator movie, now you know where they get their ideas from,from actual incidents. P.s. Holdsworth brings back memories, i'd like to get back to a Flying Scot or a Mercian one day but too many bikes at the moment. P.S.S. how do you include quotes while posting here?, i can't get the hang of it on this forum host, sorry for being stupid. So far as I know..... I've always kept concious. The Holdsworth was my first 'real' bike. Bought new in the mid 80s. Frame repaired by Roberts a few years after my first off. In on the Giant, TCR 0, 2011 today. So much nicer to handle. See Martin has sorted you on the quotes. Took me a while to work it out
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 14, 2015 10:02:34 GMT
And the above is precisely why I gave up cycling. Any event on a bike hurts, usually a lot. I went through a fractured skull (no hat), a compression fractured elbow, and many bouts of "road rash" by caressing the tarmac before I decided enough was enough and stuck to running. It's surprising how many "offs" and/or near misses you do have as a cyclist. I guess one day I will come unstuck one time too many and decide it's time to quit. I'm not there yet but I can probably count more than a dozen very near misses due to reckless motorists. Most common are those who go charging across roundabouts when I'm right in front of them and have right of way. I've even had idiots coming up the right hand lane and cutting across me to turn left while I'm on the roundabout. ive also had near misses with pedestrians just stepping out in front of me without even looking. They assume no engine sound means it's clear to cross. If you are going downhill, it's very dangerous to try and stop in time. Third most common risk are cars that approach a junction and shoot four feet over the line. I then have to swerve around them to avoid a collision only to find another driver overtaking me and boxing me in. No no wonder some cyclists give up. Whilst the off-road spills are part of the experience with mountain biking, I do worry about the amount of drivers who have almost caused serious accidents. There are a few things you can do to reduce the risks. Driving a car for years helps. Rear view mirror on the bike Rear lights which I will now have on permanently even in daylight Assume everyone is out to kill you 'Know' certain cars are usually driven badly. BMW, some Mercs, some Audis, some VWs, a lot of 4x4s, a lot of vans, some big trucks Helmet, bright clothes, reflective flashes
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 11:30:03 GMT
Yep, agree with all of those but yet to do rear mirror. I'll heed the reminder, thanks. My particular favourite was "assume everyone is out to kill you". I've had days when it's seemed like a magnetic force is somehow pulling vehicles and pedestrians into my path
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Post by MartinT on Mar 14, 2015 12:43:22 GMT
'Know' certain cars are usually driven badly. BMW, some Mercs, some Audis, some VWs, a lot of 4x4s, a lot of vans, some big trucks I would put Audi drivers as the worst now.
One thing about big German cars that I think helps explain the poor driving, and the same goes for Volvo and Saab: drivers are closeted, pampered with luxury and enjoy a good ride and a very quiet cabin. All these things create a disconnect between the driver and their surroundings. Driving them is easy and lulls the driver into driving as a background task. I'm not condoning it, but it's been my observation over the years.
The best thing a cyclist can do is be garishly visible: hi-viz jacket and bright lights at all times. Flashing lights in the daytime are even better. Make yourself impossible to miss (no, not that way)!
An unlit cyclist must have a life expectancy measurable in days, it's just as stupid as the driver that hits them.
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Post by tony on Mar 14, 2015 12:45:44 GMT
Ive cycled off road for a number of years and have been pretty luck injury wise. I am really careful when cycling on the road cars and vans are now so restricted with massive A pillars for crash safety they have terrible blind spots fuelling the "sorry I didnt see you mate" accidents.
Hoping to get back out soon, had a herniated disk removed 18 months ago and find that getting out on the bike leaves me with no sensation in my thighs due to nerve damage...returns after a couple of days but still have to be careful.
Anybody tried a good quality suspension seat post like canecreak? Thinking it might negate some of the aggravation to my back!!
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Post by Weecrackpot on Mar 14, 2015 15:02:44 GMT
Yep, agreed with all that has touched on near misses with cycling, on top of the hi-viz garment Martin has mentioned, my friend suggested a couple of desingner wobbles gains a bit of cautious berth from motorists. Tony, how about a Phat Bike?, they are all the rage last year and was tempted to try one for the fun of it, they are bikes that has a biiig tyre clearance, it's like riding on a balloon of air, if you want to stay traditional, how about a bike with carbon seat and chain stays?, they are kinder to the rear and spine without going to the expense of a complete carbon frame. link to bikesdirect dot com, they have tremendous deals at time, hence i was tempted with a Phatty recently. bikesdirect.com/
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