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Post by jandl100 on May 16, 2022 13:18:34 GMT
Obviously, I have no actual idea of the facts, but it seems like her fame has led to a much broader appeal than would be usual for a classical concert - and so the entry of many folks who do not actually know the usually accepted rules of behaviour at such events. Perhaps you were lucky there weren't whistling, cat calls, clapping and singing along with the music, and maybe even a crowd surfer or two. All perfectly acceptable behaviour at a rock or metal concert! Definitely this was a much younger audience than I'm used to seeing at the Barbican and I was surprised to see KB having that broad an appeal. Of course that in itself is a good thing, and I love to see kids at classical concerts, but somewhere along the line people need to know what the basic expected behaviour is. The Barbican staff certainly didn't help in this regard as I mentioned. I must admit to being a bit concerned that KB's overly romantic approach to repertoire and performance will only exacerbate the widely held view that "classical music" is all laidback mush. We, of course, know that is not the case. But the young folks turning up due to her box office appeal would likely leave the concert with their prejudices apparently largely confirmed.
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Post by MartinT on May 16, 2022 14:27:40 GMT
In this regard Yuja Wang is streets ahead of KB Wang is streets ahead of anyone. A simply one-of-a-kind mesmerising performer who has the skill, charm and interpretation to leave others in the dust.
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Post by Slinger on May 16, 2022 14:58:33 GMT
Is there a set of the " rules" that they could laminate, and post outside of concert halls, or perhaps ushers could identify the more " uncouth" patrons as they entered, and make then sign some sort of agreement whereby they promised to behave in the manner of their betters for the duration of the concert? I can see the argument that fewer of the " crisps and mobiles," classes in the auditorium might encourage more " well behaved" patrons. But the reverse is probably also true, and fewer stuffy old men ruling the roost might encourage a younger clientele. The promoter and the owner of the venue are probably only in the game for bums-on-seats and the ratio of adult nappies versus boxers on those seats won't bother them a great deal as long as they can sell venues/tours out. Jerry, you said But what if that's precisely why they were there, and if Ms B had started belting out Stockhausen'Klavierstück IX, or meandering through Schnittke's Piano Sonata No. 3 they might never come back? Where's your future audience? I hate to say it, but like most forms of entertainment, it's all about the bottom line these days. Names people recognise, Chopin, Bach, Liszt hopefully, Satie perhaps, are what sell. Esoteric piano pieces by composers, some of whom don't even have the good taste to be dead yet, will not bring in the crowds. People of our age and outlook (I, for instance, continued to wear a suit and tie to West End theatre, even after audiences started to turn up in jeans and trainers) are a dying breed, quite literally, and the need to bring in new, younger blood is there, right now, even if it means sadly, dumbing down the larger concerts. People, right across the board now (apart from a relatively select group) have less disposable income, and every venue and every tour manager is fighting for every quid they can lay their grubby little trotters on. In Miss B's repertoire, apart from the old favourites was Eric ( I wondered what that tune from that advert was called) Satie, and a piece by François Couperin which was pleasant enough that some of the young ruffians might remember his name, or at least refer to their program notes and hit Spotify when they get home. Bums-on-seats, lads. We are not THE generation being catered to (and for) anymore in the mainstream, dumbed down, classics-for-the-council-estate hoi polloi, business. Get used to it, and/or be more selective in your choice of venue, and program. Big artists command big fees, and filling venues is the only way to afford them.
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Post by MartinT on May 16, 2022 15:14:51 GMT
It's behaviour that annoys me, not dress code. The ones who can't cover their mouths when coughing, who bring food in (just ban all food and drink), who bring children who are too young in, who fiddle and fidget and don't have the common courtesy to be quiet. They come from all classes so it's not a 'new audience' issue. I've seen some old guard behave just as badly.
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Post by jandl100 on May 16, 2022 15:30:30 GMT
fop
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Post by julesd68 on May 16, 2022 18:27:43 GMT
It's behaviour that annoys me, not dress code. The ones who can't cover their mouths when coughing, who bring food in (just ban all food and drink), who bring children who are too young in, who fiddle and fidget and don't have the common courtesy to be quiet. They come from all classes so it's not a 'new audience' issue. I've seen some old guard behave just as badly. Yes of course behaviour is the most important thing but I do wish people would make more of an effort dress wise - it seems somewhat incongruous that KB is wearing a beautiful full length evening gown whilst some punters look like they've been taking the dog for a walk in the local park.
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Post by julesd68 on May 16, 2022 18:43:15 GMT
Is there a set of the " rules" that they could laminate, and post outside of concert halls, or perhaps ushers could identify the more " uncouth" patrons as they entered, and make then sign some sort of agreement whereby they promised to behave in the manner of their betters for the duration of the concert? I can see the argument that fewer of the " crisps and mobiles," classes in the auditorium might encourage more " well behaved" patrons. But the reverse is probably also true, and fewer stuffy old men ruling the roost might encourage a younger clientele. The promoter and the owner of the venue are probably only in the game for bums-on-seats and the ratio of adult nappies versus boxers on those seats won't bother them a great deal as long as they can sell venues/tours out. Jerry, you said But what if that's precisely why they were there, and if Ms B had started belting out Stockhausen'Klavierstück IX, or meandering through Schnittke's Piano Sonata No. 3 they might never come back? Where's your future audience? I hate to say it, but like most forms of entertainment, it's all about the bottom line these days. Names people recognise, Chopin, Bach, Liszt hopefully, Satie perhaps, are what sell. Esoteric piano pieces by composers, some of whom don't even have the good taste to be dead yet, will not bring in the crowds. People of our age and outlook (I, for instance, continued to wear a suit and tie to West End theatre, even after audiences started to turn up in jeans and trainers) are a dying breed, quite literally, and the need to bring in new, younger blood is there, right now, even if it means sadly, dumbing down the larger concerts. People, right across the board now (apart from a relatively select group) have less disposable income, and every venue and every tour manager is fighting for every quid they can lay their grubby little trotters on. In Miss B's repertoire, apart from the old favourites was Eric ( I wondered what that tune from that advert was called) Satie, and a piece by François Couperin which was pleasant enough that some of the young ruffians might remember his name, or at least refer to their program notes and hit Spotify when they get home. Bums-on-seats, lads. We are not THE generation being catered to (and for) anymore in the mainstream, dumbed down, classics-for-the-council-estate hoi polloi, business. Get used to it, and/or be more selective in your choice of venue, and program. Big artists command big fees, and filling venues is the only way to afford them. Interesting thoughts Paul and it's difficult to disagree with you. As I suggested earlier I think KB is at a turning point in her career as to what kind of artist she wants to be. Does she want an easy life, staying within a fairly narrow comfort zone or does she want to challenge herself and actually grow? Depending on which side she chooses she may not be someone I will follow in the future, which would be a shame because she genuinely is a formidable talent as we saw in glimpses on Saturday night. The previous recital that I saw from KB, I was memsmorized by her handling of D960 - would Saturday's audience have appreciated it? Or would they have been better off with the Greatest Hits that they got? I don't know and don't want to be too judgemental and patronising. Yuja Wang proves you can be an electric performer, selling out concert halls, without standing still - I feel she still has so much more to offer and is comfortable in absolutely any repertoire. Has KB actually peaked as an artist? Time will tell.
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Post by julesd68 on May 16, 2022 19:02:07 GMT
Definitely this was a much younger audience than I'm used to seeing at the Barbican and I was surprised to see KB having that broad an appeal. Of course that in itself is a good thing, and I love to see kids at classical concerts, but somewhere along the line people need to know what the basic expected behaviour is. The Barbican staff certainly didn't help in this regard as I mentioned. I must admit to being a bit concerned that KB's overly romantic approach to repertoire and performance will only exacerbate the widely held view that "classical music" is all laidback mush. We, of course, know that is not the case. But the young folks turning up due to her box office appeal would likely leave the concert with their prejudices apparently largely confirmed. I hadn't thought about this and you are quite correct of course - only the first encore didn't fit into an old school classical recital. There was something quite old-fashioned about the whole event.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2022 23:12:50 GMT
Tonight we saw the Amati Orchestra perform at the Holy Trinity Church, Sloane Square, under the animated baton of Leo Patsalides. The programme was varied:
- Tchaikovsky - Hamlet Fantasie Overture - Delius - In a Summer Garden - Rimsky-Korsakov - Capriccio Espagnol - Sibelius - Symphony No. 5
The large church's acoustic was surprisingly forgiving, offering some reverb but in no way smearing the performance, which sounded dramatic, dynamic and full of fine musicianship. In fact, we could not in any way align the Amati with amateurs, they sounded as tight as any of the large London orchestras. The Tchaikovsky and Rimsky were suitably challenging and dynamic pieces, played very well with especially good percussion and string sections. The Delius was typical of his music, sweeping waves of sound and fine in small doses. The Sibelius 5th, once again in live performance, left me unmoved. Apart from Finlandia, I am just not getting Sibelius.
All that apart, this was a fine production in a different venue, with good performances and good sound. The Amati have two serious challenges coming next year: one evening of Shostakovich 10 and Stravinsky Firebird, the next a performance of Mahler 2. I am committed to attending both.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 3, 2022 20:34:20 GMT
The Schönbrunn as always makes the most immaculate backdrop for the Summer Concert and this year the crowds were back in force to enjoy another varied programme, this year with a nod to Ukraine.
Personal highlights were a most soulful performance of the Saint Saens Cello Concerto by Gautier Capucon, always a keenly lyrical performer but digging particularly deep here. Also, Dvorak's Slavonic Dance which as you might expect from this orchestra, sounded suitably lush, romantic, full of period charm and personality.
Should be available to catch up with soon on iPlayer.
Ludwig van Beethoven Leonore Overture No. 3, op. 72
Mykola Lysenko Farewell. Waltz in C minor (Arrangement: Olexii Bazhenov)
Arturs Maskats Tango for Symphony Orchestra
Camille Saint-Saëns Concerto for Cello and Orchestra No. 1 in A minor, op. 33
Gioacchino Rossini The Thieving Magpie: Overture (La gazza ladra: Overture)
Antonín Dvořák Slavonic Dance in E Minor, op. 72/2
.. and one of those Waltz things of course!
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 4, 2022 12:54:22 GMT
Tonight we saw the Amati Orchestra perform at the Holy Trinity Church, Sloane Square, under the animated baton of Leo Patsalides. I spent so much time working around that area over the years but have never been in the church! The programme looked appealing to me. I do enjoy Sib 5 and like his work as a whole. What do you think of his VC and how well do you know the various tone poems?
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Post by MartinT on Jul 4, 2022 12:57:56 GMT
The VC is not bad and I like the tone poem Finlandia.
Otherwise, his music has left me largely unmoved.
That church is pretty magnificent inside.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 4, 2022 13:49:48 GMT
Oh dear, it's Sloane Square - got it completely confused with somewhere else doh!
I'm going to find just one Sibelius recording for you to listen to Martin.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 28, 2022 17:38:36 GMT
St James's Church Piccadilly - London
27/7/22
Lunctime Recital Series - Jean Bernard Marie, piano
Ravel - Miroirs Zavaro - Parmi les Avalanches Messiaen - Premiere Communion de la Vierge Debussy - L'isle JoyeuseI have finally managed to get to a lunchtime concert at SJP and what a joy to return to this beautiful and historic church, with its excellent Fazioli piano. And wonderful to see so many people there, as it was before the pandemic! I'm not going to go into a full scale review on this, as it would seem somewhat churlish in the circumstances. The Ravel is a great favourite of mine and for the first two movements I was studying the way Mr Marie was playing - I made sure to get an excellent view of his hands from the side of the church. However, in the sublime third movement I managed to get completely lost in the music as he unleashed a sudden surge of electricity into the air. Such liquid energy, ravishing dynamics, with the cascading flow of notes ascending to the heavens of this great church. The Zavaro was introduced by our soloist and we learnt that it was written for a piano competition, the challenge being the 'avalanche' of notes it presents! It was most enjoyable to witness this formidable technical challenge. I also really enjoyed the Messiaen - it's a fascinating piece in the way it plays with time, often seeming to change time signatures every few bars. Mostly plaintive and introspective, in contemplation of the Virgin Mary, which couldn't be more apt in the setting; tonally, it's exactly what you would expect from this composer. It's the eleventh piece in Vingt Regards sur l’Enfant-Jésus, which takes around 2 hours to perform. Marking a great contrast, the Debussy needed to feel a little more unashamedly romantic for my taste, but a great way to finish this recital. My concentration was sorely tested during the recital by a young boy, who as luck would have it, sat in front of us. Great - after a few minutes he then fell asleep but then proceeded to snore for the rest of the concert! His mum tried to stop him but that was attention diverting in itself. At another point someone was taken ill in the audience but the performance continued, thankfully there wasn't a great emergency.
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Post by julesd68 on Aug 13, 2022 12:16:14 GMT
Prom 35 - Royal Albert Hall
Sibelius - Tapiola Liszt - Piano Concerto No. 1 R. Strauss - Ein Heldenleben
Yuja Wang - piano Oslo Philharmonic Klaus Mäkelä - conductorShe came, she played, she conquered. Yuja Wang has become the complete pianist. But it wasn't always this way. I first saw Ms Wang play a solo programme of Scriabin / Rachmaninov heavy repertoire over 10 years ago at one of the smaller Southbank theatres. She thundered her way through, attacking the keys with an almost feral menace and intensity that I will warrant none of us had ever witnessed. Whilst she received the admiration and adulation of the crowd, I appeared to be the only one slightly non-plussed by it - where was the musicality in all of the maelstrom? Fast forward another 10 years ago and we have an entirely different, more (g)rounded performer. The Liszt naturally demands a perfect technique, but she has always enjoyed that; the challenge was to marry a charm and delicacy with the melodrama. I must say that her control of the upper registers when playing pianissimo was utterly sublime and she played to us with a tenderness that felt wholly sincere. The trill that would seemingly never end transfixed us all. The crystalline definition of notes played at breakneck speed was breathtaking and she managed to deliver a technicolour performance in which everything felt so fresh, vital and spontaneous - what a way to celebrate concert goers returning to this hall! The two winning encores seemed to encapsulate her new found depth, her interpretation of Carmen showing all of her agility and speed whilst the other was heartfelt and hushed. We did our best to encourage a third encore but a final appearance on stage to acknowledge the applause was to be final. Let’s go back to the start of the concert. How wonderful to see this great hall bursting to the seams with eager Prommers, hardly a seat to be had. The 26 year old Mäkelä cuts quite a figure at the podium - impossibly suave in his immaculate double breasted tuxedo and bow tie he also has a touch of the Erroll Flynn (!) about him such is his charisma and indefatigable encouragement he offers, with his hair seemingly having a life of its own. Indeed you can almost see him carving out the series of tense and murmuring undulations in Tapiola just by his facial expressions, which sometimes verged on a maniacal glee, counting out the primordial heartbeat of the forest and serving as a premonition for the highly charged climax of this nihilistic force of nature, Sibelius’s final major work. At times you are listening to an energy that transcends our narrow concepts of western classical music. I love sitting in the choir at the RAH - there's something so visceral about the experience of sitting so close to the orchestra, especially if you have the timpani or brass unloading just a few metres in front of you! After we had a chance to calm down following Ms Wang’s departure, our final piece was the Strauss tone poem following the life of a mythical 'Hero' figure. I confess to struggling a little with this, aside from some gloriously taken solos by the concertmaster, Elise Båtnes, who it turns out first performed with this orchestra aged just 10! Don’t get me wrong, it feverishly endeavours to seduce with its highly charged romantic meanderings but it lost something in clarity with the narrative, after one too many heady climaxes, you don’t know whether you’re coming or going - whether that’s down to the composition or performance I just don’t know. Let's put it down to my lack of familiarity with the score this time. As I left the Albert and wandered into the balmy night, my route took me past the Royal College of Music, where I could just make out some echoing late night piano practice - how wonderful I thought, it’s this kind of dedication that will produce the elite performers of tomorrow.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 13, 2022 18:02:27 GMT
Great review, Jules. I have sat behind the orchestra many times in the past at the Albert Hall and it does offer a different perspective on the conductor and performers. I saw the great Eugen Jochum from this angle, an old man propped against a stool but in complete command, and the image and music making remain seared in my memory. Glad you enjoyed the evening and still have Wang and Argerich in my bucket list of performers to see before I die.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 4, 2022 16:41:36 GMT
Prom 62 - Royal Albert Hall 3/9/22 Mahler 7
Kirill Petrenko / Berlin PhiliharmonicArch Symphonist Kirill
In a night to savour which I hope lingers long in the memory, I found the Seventh to be an an irresistibly gilded and radiant symphony, in the expert hands of an irrepressible orchestra boasting a conductor fully fit to unleash it’s bounteous charms. It was evident from the First Movement that this was to be a very different Berlin Phil to that I had experienced previously. The opening Tenor Horn solo, and those of the brass which followed, were crystalline clarion calls to action; the ever busy Petrenko proceeded to shape impossibly romantic and gorgeous themes that were unflinchingly seductive. Oft reminiscent of technicolour dreams from the Golden Age of Hollywood, the music was rich, luscious and ripe to an indecent degree. And for the Star Trek fans amongst you - if you want to see where the inspiration for original theme music came from, look no further, it’s right there … I knew I was hooked - it was thrilling, exuberant and alluring, yes, all traces of previous BPO live encounters were banished to the nether regions of my consciousness. This was music making with energy, gusto and commitment, led from the podium. The first of the Nachtmusik movements began and ended with woodwind texture and timbre that was so exquisite, it was almost unearthly - the delicacy and clarity in the softest of moments is remarkable; make no mistake, this orchestra is not full of gleaming yet shallow technicians - the connection one feels with them is something profoundly special. Again I was struck by the way Petrenko was constantly urging, foraging in the soundscape, shaping the music with surging and retreating waves of energy to portray the juxtaposition of marches and dances. I will not detain you much with the Third Movement. In terms of the music, for me it doesn’t hit the dizzying heights of the rest of the work. It might be unfair to call it pedestrian in comparison, but I confess that my attention wandered for the first time and momentum was briefly lost, despite the best efforts of all concerned. Thankfully the Fourth Movement immediately resumes normal service with its Austrian Alps folklore and pastoral charms. Like an early morning breath of Alpine air, it oozes rustic atmosphere, with the help of an acoustic guitar and mandolin; distant cowbells echoing off stage. The rampant start of the Rondo Finale for the Fifth Movement hit me squarely between the eyes like a cannonball, as the timpani thundered a warning shot across the boughs. Fair warning was given, this was to be a full blooded race to the finish line. It’s a fascinating movement which has provoked much debate. Sweeping dynamics dominate heraldic fanfares alternating with rustic dances which are handled so sprightly and fleet-footed, the combination of which removes any traces of pomposity yet proves controversial for some. The massed strings and woodwind shone with high gloss and panache here, leading to an intensely heady climax ending with resounding bells. I’m really not sure that five gold stars would do this performance full justice. When listening, it was as if time stood still, such was the deep connection this orchestra’s music made with me. It must surely be the best ever orchestral performance that I have heard at the Albert - if only it were to be released commercially. And in terms of the best ever orchestral performance I have witnessed in any hall? Well, very possibly this Mahler 7 belongs at the peak - at present I really cannot think of any occasion where the quality of the written music and the performance of the orchestra has surpassed this exceptional night.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 4, 2022 17:44:27 GMT
Good review, Jules. I'm glad that Petrenko has shaken off the torpor of the Rattle days and woken the Berlin Phil up. They have always been a technically marvellous orchestra, there is no doubting their skills. The Mahler 7th takes its time to release its magic, but it was in fact one of my early favourites, together with the 2nd. I'm glad you enjoyed the night.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 4, 2022 18:56:59 GMT
Yes, Sleeping Beauty has finally woken up with a vengeance!
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 24, 2022 13:28:46 GMT
St James's Church, Picadilly 18 November
Elfida Su Turan (violin), Damir Durmanovic (piano), Can Arısoy (piano)
Beethoven (1770-1827) – Sonata “Les Adieux” Op. 81a Debussy (1862-1918) – Feux d’artifice Prelude No. 12 Book 2.
E. Chausson (1855-1899) – Poeme Op. 25
K. Szymanowski (1882-1937) – Notturno e Tarantella Op. 28This was a delightful lunchtime special at SJP which over the years has provided so much wonderful music from both young and established performers alike. These young musicians duly delivered some gems in a very well supported performance. My highlights are two fold. Firstly, the dizzyingly impressionistic and virtuosic Debussy which gave me those surges of energy and electricity that I associate more with Ravel. A great technical work out for the gifted pianist. Really not what I was expecting from Debussy at all! Again, the Szymanowski took me completely by surprise. Another piece where the performer could show off technique and musicality in equal measure. I adored this piece and consider it a lovely discovery. Full of Spanish charm and passion it really challenges the violinist with its mixture of heavy spicatto and pizzicato that gives the work its flamenco rhythms. Dreamy and sultry one moment, drifting on a gentle Iberian evening wind and the next moment the passion and fire of local life is served up with irresistible colour and Flamenco flair. Elfida Su Turan looked so deeply focused and almost lost in the heady charms of this work, she really took us with her on this journey of the senses, it was a deeply enchanting and intoxicating way to finish the recital. Bravo!
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