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Post by MartinT on Dec 3, 2022 13:21:02 GMT
Vaughan Williams: Five Mystical Songs Bruckner: Symphony No. 9 LPO, Ticciati 30 November 2022 Festival Hall
After the long break from the pandemic, this was my first return to the South Bank. The Festival Hall looked absolutely magnificent, including the fully restored organ. It may sound a bit feeble, but it looks wonderful.
The Vaughan Williams songs didn't move me much except for the final one, which was a big step up. My problem with songs sung in English is that I find the words (especially religious texts) distracting from the music. I love the sound the human voice makes, but I prefer my classical songs sung in Latin, German or Italian.
The Bruckner was more problematic for me. The LPO are usually so polished, but on this occasion they sounded under-rehearsed with strange timing from the conductor making the 9th sound overly broken and episodic. Having heard this performed by the VPO under Jochum, I know how the ebb-and-flow typical of Bruckner symphonies should sound, with magnificent blaring brass, and I don't think the LPO really did it justice. I will say, though, that the string section handled some of his lyrical sections very nicely indeed.
It was great catching up with Jules before the event, though, and I rarely regret going to concerts. Not this one, either.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 3, 2022 16:24:06 GMT
I certainly don’t regret going to the concert - the programme and performance turned out to be underwhelming but seeing the Southbank in a festive mood and having a chance to have a glass of decent wine and a proper chat with Martin made it eminently worthwhile. VW’s finest moments are some of the most moving for me in the entire classical catalogue and they are completely timeless. These songs however I would happily not inflict on my ears again, as they are firmly rooted in the more mediocre early 20th century British choral traditions and have not stood the test of time, in spite of the valiant efforts of baritone Simon Keenlyside. As Martin said, the final song was leagues above the others in terms of its interest and raised my mood for the Bruckner. Only recently I had been waxing lyrical about a performance of Bruckner 7 in Salzburg and was hoping this might be up to the same standards. How wrong I was. Here is how to make your own Bruckner 9. Start with a theme at pianissimo and then develop a very long but steady dark orchestral crescendo with muted brass and strings, eventually reach a climax, unleash hell with the brass section and have the entire string section bowing furiously in unison to underline the point. And then? Do it again. Not just once, but for the entire symphony!! Good grief the structure just doesn’t change and I was desperately looking for something to hold onto in terms of the development in the musical themes, but it just did not come. And as Martin quite rightly pointed out, there were too many deficiencies and wobbles in the performance, most seriously with the LPO really failing to maintain some kind of tension in the slower passages and weave it all together, but stone me they were certainly up against it with this score.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 6, 2022 19:37:06 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Dec 6, 2022 21:44:55 GMT
Excellent - a kind of elongated French Horn.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 6, 2022 22:02:32 GMT
Yes apparently some French Horn players also specialise in the Wagner ...
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 6, 2022 22:10:10 GMT
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Post by Slinger on Dec 6, 2022 23:43:20 GMT
Richard Sebring, Associate Principal Horn, Boston Symphony Orchestra on the Wagner Tuba.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 7, 2022 10:53:01 GMT
Nice clip there, from the 9th.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 7, 2022 13:27:45 GMT
Nice clip there, from the 9th. I went through a few clips, until I found what I thought was the most suitable one. The Bruckner wasn't a coincidence, that's how I roll.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 7, 2022 15:22:42 GMT
LOL you are Mr Infoweb, Paul.
A most educational film it was too.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 8, 2022 21:37:28 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 9, 2022 12:38:32 GMT
Ok I'll give it one last go seeing as this is the Original 1894 version in 3 movements... Let's see how it compares!
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Post by MartinT on Dec 9, 2022 12:51:43 GMT
I played it last night but I'll be interested in your opinion.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 22, 2022 13:47:39 GMT
The Tallis Scholars
Peter Philips
CONDUCTOR
St John's Smith Square - 21/12/22
Byrd - Mass for Five voices Fayrfax - O Maria deo grata
Gombert - Magnificat III, Regina caeli a Taverner - O splendor gloriae Gesualdo - Ave, dulcissima Maria
I've seen The Tallis Scholars a good number of times over the years in different venues and their command of early Church music has never failed to move me. Saying that, for the first time ever, I struggled with their performance in the first half of this concert. The relatively austere Byrd and Gombert were chosen to contrast the more exuberant works in the second half but to my ears it sounded just too understated, which sadly reduced the works to one of mundanity. The sopranos were especially subdued and their voices just didn't have the required crystalline purity to cut through and make an emotional contact. I don't think the acoustic helped at all, there was hardly natural decay in the church, but I had to remind myself today how beautiful the Byrd can sound with their own recording of the work which is so much more expressively phrased than last night, with a stronger sense of occasion and unified purpose.
However I'm delighted and relieved to say that normal service was resumed post interval with the wonderful Magnificat III from Gombert which has the most wonderfully crafted polyphony with those soaring voices which so keenly go about their divine task of bringing the congregation closer to God. The sopranos were much more effective in this work with greater clarity and expression. This style was carried over into the Taverner which was perhaps the most complex work of the evening - an ever spinning web of intriguing vocal interactions, constantly turning corners and anything but predictable. Wonderful roles for the sopranos to soar gently above. Sublime, truly. We finished with my man Gesualdo, a hero of mine in polyphony, if not of good character. A much more subdued yet subtle work which rewards careful and devout listening with an experience that only the Price of Genova can offer, but it didn't come alive quite as it should - it can have the most magical way to it. Indeed, again the recording of this work made by the ensemble is by some margin superior and gets you much closer to heaven.
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 15, 2023 18:43:44 GMT
Wow.
What an incredible experience at the Barbican this afternoon. Mind-bending, actually. But not for reasons you might assume!
More to follow.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 15, 2023 18:46:58 GMT
Do tell!
Was Wang wearing something even more astonishing than usual? Did she break into some jazz? Did the Barbican disguise its normal concrete brutalism?
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 15, 2023 18:54:34 GMT
Not Yuja today Martin!
Anna Fedorova was the soloist and the Barbican was as resplendent as ever in its brutalist dream ...
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 18, 2023 15:51:23 GMT
Barbican - Sun 15 Jan 2023
BBC Symphony Orchestra - Kirill Karabits Anna Fedorova - Piano
Sergei Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No 3 Boris Lyatoshinsky - Symphony No 3By the end of this concert, I was reeling from the impact of the performance. But not in the way you might have thought because whilst the Rach 3 was very good, the Lyatoshinksky Symphony just took me somewhere else completely. But let’s start with the PC. I thought it took the Ukrainian soloist Fedorova a little while to find her range and relationship with the orchestra in the first movement but when it came to the unaccompanied section which develops the main theme, I started to understand what she is really about. Her control of acoustic dynamics was absolutely startling, but not just that, the emotional dynamics and pull of the music were delivered with such grip and clarity. The second movement was handled in a most saccharine-free manner without any excess of romantic indulgence. If I can sum up Ms Fedorova succinctly, she is a very natural, unforced communicator of music and you won’t get any extravagant phrasing or questionable tempos. However, you mustn’t mistake this approach for a lack of flair, power or panache - the way she kept building and building the tension in the third when there was seemingly no more to be wrestled from it very much moved me. She was playing from the absolute depth of her soul in this movement with fervent support from the orchestra I felt, as did the Barbican audience, who were very generous in their reception of the work with many rising to their feet to salute a performance of exceptional stamina, both emotional and physical. A most satisfying start to the concert. The first thing to say about the symphony is that both the work and the composer were entirely new to me. Let’s see what the Barbican had to say about this - Kirill Karabits has been an outspoken champion of neglected Soviet-era composers, and he’s convinced that the music of this major Ukranian symphonist is powerful enough to speak on its own terms. 'If only Lyatoshinsky had lived in Moscow during Soviet times, instead of staying in Kyiv, his name would stand next to Shostakovich' he says 'It's just great music. Really great music’. Well on the basis of this work and performance Karabits certainly makes a persuasive argument for Lyatoshinksky. In the opening salvos of the first movement I immediately thought we might be in for some Shosta-lite, such was the similarity of musical theme with elements of Shosta 10. We were then even treated to some wistful Rach-lite musings! However from then on in the first it gets much more interesting and idiosyncratic as he develops such a monolithic, 'Stalinesque' theme if you will, which hits you squarely between the eyes such is its violence, force and bristling kinetic energy. The second movement actually has a distinctly Hitchcockian atmosphere with a sustained three note motif of brooding tension and danger, almost an Iron Curtain in itself, which then develops into a Tim Burtonesque fantasy thorough the third movement - fascinating stuff! The final movement conjured up an image for me of a Roman Triumph with powerful celebratory brass, revelling in a Hans Zimmer / Holstian 'The Planets' atmosphere. The orchestra deeply impressed me here, they played the $h1t out of it, digging so deep with every sinew stretched. Many thanks to the conductor for introducing me to this work, it’s a wonderful discovery for me. And how marvellous to see the Barbican nearly full, the bars and cafes so busy! Here’s the symphony as recorded by Karabits with the Bournemouth Symphony.
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 11, 2023 11:36:00 GMT
Well that was a real struggle. Shosta 4 with Karabits and the BSO. Crushingly underwhelming, I've seen more tension in a bag of crisps. I won't even begin to break it down. And this is a work about the Great Terror? Nobody told the orchestra. Critics loved it though - how is this possible? I paid £10 for the privilege and supporting programme which was equally tepid - should have bought a bottle of wine instead. bsolive.com/events/kirill-conducts-shostakovich/
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2023 11:51:38 GMT
How disappointing Critics look for different things.
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