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Post by ChrisB on Mar 1, 2015 1:30:57 GMT
No,no,no! What happens to all of the bits of vinyl that your sandpaper removes? Some of them are going in yer grooves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 13:54:22 GMT
The microscopic bits of vinyl drop mainly on the floor and bits of sandpaper don't come of the grey type wet/dry abrasive used for car paintwork. Just blow any dust of the surface and use a record cleaning brush. So a friggin reamer is preferable or just machine down your spindle size at your friendly machine shop? Method is foolproof, provides even removal of excess vinyl with no chance of damage. Used it for years.
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Post by Greg on Mar 1, 2015 19:13:35 GMT
So a friggin reamer is preferable or just machine down your spindle size at your friendly machine shop? I don't see the logic in that. Some LP's fit perfectly on the spindle and some are too tight. Surely the right approach is to open the holes on the too tight LP's rather than create an undersized spindle that will then be ill fitting in many instances? I suppose how this is done will be a matter of personal preference and I think the method I suggested above will be the best solution for me.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 2, 2015 6:55:46 GMT
Agreed, I wouldn't mess with the spindle as you risk most records being played with non-concentric positioning. Built-in wow from poorly positioned centre holes is bad enough.
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 7, 2015 10:49:48 GMT
While I completely disagree with the assertion that bits of vinyl carved from the centre hole will not cause any problem at all, if you feel you must create little bits of groove clogging swarf, then here's another way to do it: Spindle hole enlarger
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Post by mikeh on Apr 4, 2015 11:08:57 GMT
Yes I have the same problem with my 401, I've got Thorens and Rega TTs that I had no probs. with, but as soon as I got the 401 some were a really tight fit whilst others were fine. I used a BIC biro at first but that broke on one particularly obstinate disc, so now I use (this is going to frighten you) a 7.5mm twist drill very carefully. I recently bought the Beatles mono collection and had to do every disc. Sometimes it's swarf that's causing the problem, so using a pen/pencil would produce the same waste flakes, I don't like the idea of fine sanded dust either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 11:19:58 GMT
The amount of dust from sanding is insignificant in relation to dust from the atmosphere and particles I find on records out of the sleeve. Drill creates similar problem with high risk of damage. Brush with carbon brush and run through RCM and anything should be removed if you are that worried.
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Post by Barry on Apr 4, 2015 12:27:12 GMT
For goodness sake just use the tapered tip of an old fashioned potato peeler to enlarge the undersized hole. You won't have any problems with vinyl swarf "clogging up" the grooves.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 4, 2015 12:41:10 GMT
particles I find on records out of the sleeve Use Nagaoka or similar inner sleeves. Their anti-static properties after a few hours is amazing and, after a clean, you don't see dust on your records any more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 13:02:01 GMT
Martin I'm talking about new from the factory. I always resleeve in Nagaoka style sleeves apart from QRP and MFSL. There is far more crap on most records from the plant than a bit of hole enlarging will generate.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 4, 2015 13:06:24 GMT
Agreed, but I find that sleeving them and then cleaning them usually gets it all off. If it's extreme, I'll put it through the RCM.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 13:10:40 GMT
Agreed, but I find that sleeving them and then cleaning them usually gets it all off. If it's extreme, I'll put it through the RCM. Agreed and that is what I do.
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Post by stanleyb on Apr 4, 2015 13:45:28 GMT
Get rid of the 401. It's the least labour intensive method and won't damage any of your vinyl.
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Post by pre65 on Apr 4, 2015 14:35:34 GMT
Not likely.
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Post by Tim on Apr 4, 2015 14:53:22 GMT
Get rid of the 401. It's the least labour intensive method and won't damage any of your vinyl. Haha, that made me chuckle Stan
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Post by The Brookmeister on Apr 4, 2015 22:29:21 GMT
It's been specially constructed for a specific job, I wouldn't be without mine, the latest EMINEM box set I just bought none of them went on the spindle easily so had to drill them all. You could borrow Marcos' as I seem to remember giving him one for free! You cannot easily drill an LP out with just a drill bit trust me on that one! Which Greg are you BTW?
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Post by The Brookmeister on Apr 4, 2015 22:30:39 GMT
Get rid of the 401. It's the least labour intensive method and won't damage any of your vinyl. and buy a rega maybe?
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Post by The Brookmeister on Apr 4, 2015 22:31:51 GMT
Not likely. Hi Phil, Dominic just plinthed another 401 for me, will you be at the newt Owston you can see it in the flesh?
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Post by pre65 on Apr 5, 2015 7:49:29 GMT
Not likely. Hi Phil, Dominic just plinthed another 401 for me, will you be at the newt Owston you can see it in the flesh? Hi David, I certainly hope so, depends on the date. I have a load of 1000va isolation transformers to deliver. I've ordered one of your IEC lead kits on Ebay to try.
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 5, 2015 8:40:26 GMT
Some records come with a warning that this will be a problem.
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