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Post by julesd68 on Jul 1, 2019 21:30:12 GMT
I think Keith Don't Go should be banned from any audiophile demonstrations ... Maybe you have not heard it on the right system? LOL - that’s very possible DB - I heard it several times with your Solution amps and Maxonic speakers - maybe they didn't resolve enough detail …
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2019 5:46:43 GMT
There's plenty of detail on my system. Incredible recording.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 2, 2019 7:03:01 GMT
It is a great track but it does get a bit tired after around the 125th play.
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Post by John on Jul 2, 2019 7:17:22 GMT
I see it as a system show off track a bit like Dead Can Dance Song for the stars A better system test is Zero Hour Demise and Vestige It will brutally show up any issues with the bass and treble to the point of it being unlistenable. Some might argue that its just unlistenable
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2019 7:28:48 GMT
If you want a good system test that differentiates the men from the boys, Van Morrison's Satisfied from Common One is a very enjoyable listen but highly demanding to get right. At the start are those Hammond organ keystrokes, each making a distinctive sound, then his vocals are astoundingly dynamic, making the volume difficult to get right. Finally are three brass instruments 'talking to each other', fantastically vivid and differently textured. Underpinning it all is a great bass line. It's a superlative performance and recording.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 2, 2019 7:42:33 GMT
Nah, the ulimate test track is a solo lute recording. This tells me everything that I personally want to know about a system. -- rez, image focus, soundstage, microdynamics, transient speed and recovery, tonality Upgrade and it just gets better and better and better. tidal.com/browse/track/12072797YMMV
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2019 7:54:36 GMT
Thanks, Jerry, I'll have a listen to that tonight. Swap?
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Post by John on Jul 2, 2019 8:34:36 GMT
Invisible Flower of Beauty will let you know if the system will do deep bass without over powering the system Lots of detail but can be easily overpowered by the bass
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2019 16:39:56 GMT
Nah, the ulimate test track is a solo lute recording. This tells me everything that I personally want to know about a system. -- rez, image focus, soundstage, microdynamics, transient speed and recovery, tonality Upgrade and it just gets better and better and better. tidal.com/browse/track/12072797 open.qobuz.com/track/1094096It's very nice but I admit I'm not getting the system quality cues that I get when playing the Van Morrison. It tells me about focus, imaging and stage depth but nothing about bass, dynamics and power. I agree that without good midrange a system is communicatively about as useful as a bent triangle.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 2, 2019 17:26:12 GMT
Well, I just tried the Van Morrison track. I couldn't care less whether my system did it well or not! My gosh - what awful music.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2019 20:06:51 GMT
Hah! Common One is my favourite Van Morrison album!
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Post by John on Jul 13, 2019 9:12:02 GMT
Sorry I was never really been able to review this DAC as my system went through to many big changes. Hard to know what the DAC is doing and what the system changes are doing. The best I can say is that I am very happy with it and consider it to offer really good value to performance
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Post by Slinger on Jul 13, 2019 12:32:15 GMT
...The best I can say is that I am very happy with it and consider it to offer really good value to performance Concise, to the point, and no mention of "inky-blackness" or "subterranean noise floors." Just how I like my reviews.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 13, 2019 14:41:32 GMT
no mention of ... "subterranean noise floors." That's conflating two different things, bass and noise
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Post by Slinger on Jul 13, 2019 16:26:50 GMT
no mention of ... "subterranean noise floors." That's conflating two different things, bass and noise No, it just means that the noise floor has been lowered so far it's now in the cellar. I've read those reviews, Martin, I'm making as much sense to me as any of them did.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 13, 2019 16:42:36 GMT
To be serious for a moment, and very much applicable to digital reproduction, there is a point you reach where the noise floor drops like a stone. Everything has to come together to achieve it, though. The effect is that the music takes on 'shape' in the soundstage, everything acquires dimesion because you can hear the 'space' around the notes. So it's not really like noise lowering and more like the intense feeling of space between and around your speakers when you can hear the acoustic of the venue, real or artificial.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 13, 2019 18:28:32 GMT
To be serious for a moment, and very much applicable to digital reproduction, there is a point you reach where the noise floor drops like a stone. Everything has to come together to achieve it, though. The effect is that the music takes on 'shape' in the soundstage, everything acquires dimesion because you can hear the 'space' around the notes. So it's not really like noise lowering and more like the intense feeling of space between and around your speakers when you can hear the acoustic of the venue, real or artificial. I don't think Paul will like that. It's far too informative. Best to stick to "it's good innit, Oi loiks it".
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Post by Slinger on Jul 13, 2019 18:33:00 GMT
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