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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 11, 2018 15:17:47 GMT
Seems to be a definite maybe.
This is an interesting take from The great courses. I've already seen how to use an abacus
I'm investigating
What thoughts ?
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Post by Slinger on Dec 11, 2018 15:47:21 GMT
I've always believed that maths and music are inextricably linked. Almost everything about music can be broken down into easily definable ratios and there are loads of articles, both scholarly and speculative, to be found by googling something as simple as "music and maths."
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Post by MartinT on Dec 11, 2018 17:44:39 GMT
Bach would be the father of mathematical music. Just listen to, say, The Musical Offering. You can see the mathematical patterns here. Stunning, nevertheless.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 11, 2018 18:26:51 GMT
I always struggled with maths a great deal at school. As a result of that I always found a lot of music theory difficult to master ... My son is much better at maths and passed his Grade 5 theory aged 12 - I don't think it's a coincidence!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 18:58:05 GMT
Ok so the square root of 'intellectual' hipster musical masturbation specialists to the fourth power would that be either Sun Ra/Mingus or Ornette Coleman? Fundamentally there are many mathematical structures found in music, not just rhythmic repetitions I feel inexplicably linked. Pretty sure alien civilizations would communicate with musical thought patterns, not this irksome, back form of limited communication we call talking
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Post by Slinger on Dec 11, 2018 19:50:25 GMT
I've just had a horrible vision of this post mutating into one clique who say that you can't measure music, let's call them "subjectivists," versus another, that we'll call "objectivists" who think that music can be broken down into a series of numbers and numerical expressions. Perhaps we should stick to discussing safer things, like cables, or fuses.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 11, 2018 19:58:09 GMT
It still has to be musical to work, mathematical or not. Serialism is a branch of music I find unlistenable no matter what the original intention of the 12 note scale was.
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Post by ChrisB on Dec 11, 2018 20:27:50 GMT
The most interesting relationship I have heard of between music and maths is how bells were used as a universal standard of measurement between towns (can't remember which country/civilisation this took place in). A bell of a given note could contain a certain known quantity of grain or other commodity.
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Post by John on Dec 11, 2018 20:52:26 GMT
About 10 years ago I went through a phase of listening to bands like Spastic Ink that use Maths to create music. Not really able to enjoy it these days.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 11, 2018 21:43:08 GMT
It's a bit Tom and Jerry!
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Post by John on Dec 12, 2018 5:50:51 GMT
sure is but thought better to play something a bit more accessible by them
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 14, 2018 9:11:31 GMT
Yes I think they are from a brain power or mind expansion pov, and it explains why I dabble, but am ultimately a bit crap at both
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