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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 26, 2018 11:19:34 GMT
I'm wondering about the Pi-Dac Pro as a headphone amp / Dac / streamer. It's the headphone amp I'm mainly interested in for use with Sennheiser HD600, anyone used or tried it?
Cheers,
Bill
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2018 11:26:39 GMT
I have the older Pi-DAC+ in my second Pi on headphone duties and can say that it has very good sound quality. I'm guessing the Pro will be better still.
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 26, 2018 11:29:21 GMT
I have the older Pi-DAC+ in my second Pi on headphone duties and can say that it has very good sound quality. I'm guessing the Pro will be better still. How does it compare to the SEG Martin? I had been using a SEG but have recently moved to a Dragonfly Red. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2018 11:31:16 GMT
I have never done the direct comparison. The SEG is in my music room and I don't use headphones there.
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 26, 2018 11:36:00 GMT
I like my music fairly lounge via headphones, what's the volume like?
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2018 11:37:29 GMT
The volume range is just ok for my Superlux HD668B phones. You could ask if they have boosted it at all for the Pro?
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 26, 2018 11:44:53 GMT
The volume range is just ok for my Superlux HD668B phones. You could ask if they have boosted it at all for the Pro? Thanks Martin! |
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Post by AlanS on Aug 26, 2018 17:21:07 GMT
I use the IQAudio DAC+ with HD600 and Moode player. Not looking for any improvements, entirely happy with it.
There again I am not a tweaker seeking the last 0.0001% improvement
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Post by stanleyb on Aug 26, 2018 19:23:57 GMT
I have the older Pi-DAC+ in my second Pi on headphone duties and can say that it has very good sound quality. I'm guessing the Pro will be better still. How does it compare to the SEG Martin? I had been using a SEG but have recently moved to a Dragonfly Red. Have you turned up the headphone gain output on the SEG? You can also use a 15V PSU, which also add to the gain to drive the HD600. But realistically speaking, a dedicated headphone amp like the Capella will drive the HD600 far better, especially with the variable damping control. I use the HD650 that way. |
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 26, 2018 20:11:18 GMT
I use the IQAudio DAC+ with HD600 and Moode player. Not looking for any improvements, entirely happy with it. There again I am not a tweaker seeking the last 0.0001% improvement That would be my exact setup. What sort of volume levels do you get? |
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 26, 2018 20:12:48 GMT
How does it compare to the SEG Martin? I had been using a SEG but have recently moved to a Dragonfly Red. Have you turned up the headphone gain output on the SEG? You can also use a 15V PSU, which also add to the gain to drive the HD600. But realistically speaking, a dedicated headphone amp like the Capella will drive the HD600 far better, especially with the variable damping control. I use the HD650 that way. Stan, I had to move the SEG on, loved it but needed to raise some cash |
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Post by AlanS on Aug 27, 2018 10:50:16 GMT
BeB
Volume is more than I can or would want to subject myself to. HD600 are an easier load than HD800 and entirely relaxing to my taste. If you yearn for PRAT etc they may be not to your taste.
Pop up the M40 and listen?
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 27, 2018 18:45:30 GMT
BeB Volume is more than I can or would want to subject myself to. HD600 are an easier load than HD800 and entirely relaxing to my taste. If you yearn for PRAT etc they may be not to your taste. Pop up the M40 and listen? Been using the HD600 for a few years now and love them! I've just bought a secondhand Pi-Dac+ board so will see how it fairs later in the week. Will be up against my Dragonfly Red / Jitterbug. |
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Post by AlanS on Aug 28, 2018 11:00:25 GMT
BeB Volume is more than I can or would want to subject myself to. HD600 are an easier load than HD800 and entirely relaxing to my taste. If you yearn for PRAT etc they may be not to your taste. Pop up the M40 and listen? Been using the HD600 for a few years now and love them! I've just bought a secondhand Pi-Dac+ board so will see how it fairs later in the week. Will be up against my Dragonfly Red / Jitterbug. You should be quite happy with your pi DAC. i2s seems to be the cleanest connection going. Phones and DACS are a frustrating game. I Use Senn PX200 II with a Maplins DAC and it can be variable. Use them with an old Samsung phone and they are fine. Hope you are OK when all set up. The difference is the player I use. |
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 28, 2018 20:31:05 GMT
After a bit of investigation it appears the headphone amps on both the Pi Dac+ and the Dragonfly Red have virtually the same output - 135mw per channel.
This makes it very interesting as I am happy with the volume on the Dragonfly I'm currently using. Looks like a fair battle!
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Post by bourneendboy on Aug 31, 2018 15:41:25 GMT
My board has arrived.
Can any one tell me whether the headphone jack is ready to go or does it need any set up? (Other than changing to the Pi Dac in Volumio).
Going to be giving this a go over the weekend.
Cheers,
Bill
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Post by MartinT on Aug 31, 2018 18:30:49 GMT
Change to the Pi-DAC as I remember it and don't forget to set the volume below max to start with!
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