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Post by jandl100 on Jun 23, 2018 6:05:28 GMT
I've just had an email offering three months free of their new service. Anyone going for it? www.youtube.com/musicpremiumThis little clause requires further looking into ... "You agree that your purchase will be available immediately and that you waive your statutory right of withdrawal." It seems to be different from subscription cancellation if I didn't want to continue after 3 months and start paying ... ?  |
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Post by zippy on Jun 23, 2018 6:40:37 GMT
Surely that's nothing to do with cancelling subscription, but is there to stop you buying a download, then saying you don't want it, getting a refund, but keeping the download.
I'd not be surprised if all the streaming/download sites had that in their small print.
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 23, 2018 6:55:07 GMT
I'm sure you're right - it just kind of stuck out -- "waive your statutory right" rang some alarm bells!
I'll sort out my free sub this evening.
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Post by zippy on Jun 23, 2018 9:16:53 GMT
Does Youtube give anything that you can't get from Qobuz/Spotify/Deezer/Tidal and all the others ?
Every week I think of subscribing to something, but my poor brain is befuddled by the choice !
The only one I know I'm not going for is Tidal - party because I've heard lots of people report problems with it, but also because they won't let me have a free trial for some reason.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 23, 2018 10:32:25 GMT
Same price as Spotty....
Wonder what they are offering Spotty doesn't
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 23, 2018 10:37:44 GMT
I signed up and had a quick look at it before I had to go out for the day.
It's good having album and YT vid search results come up.
No idea about the breadth of the music catalogue yet.
I'm not sure what the music streaming quality is.
Will have a listen this evening.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 23, 2018 10:39:42 GMT
Please report back !
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 23, 2018 16:33:49 GMT
Well ... I suppose it's early days, but the classical catalogue is very sparsely filled. Not much there at all compared to Spotify, Qobuz or Tidal.
Only had a brief play with it, but a thumbs down so far.
It sounds OK - similar to Spotify Premium at first blush, but doesn't have the finer detail of 16/44 Qobuz.
Be interesting to see where it's got to in 3 months when the free sub ends.
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 23, 2018 17:21:21 GMT
... as a UI for searching and playing YT vids it's excellent!
Hmm -- I wonder if the YT vid playback is down sampled to the 320kbs used for the albums even for the hi-rez available direct from YouTube? If so, not so good.
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 25, 2018 4:58:18 GMT
Not that anyone seems interested, but for the record .... I've been watching some YT music vids (Best of Slade [my guilty secret   ] and Grigory Sokolov playing piano music by Armenian composer Komitas) and results are very strange. I've listened to them both via the YouTube Music streaming service and also the old fashioned way, going direct to the YouTube website. And they sound very, very different! What the hell is going on? Via YT Music streaming, the Slade sound quality is full toned with weighty bass, via the old YouTube website it is scrawny with no real oomph behind it at all. But the sq of the Komitas is the other way around - much better direct from the YT website and pretty poor from the streaming service. How weird is that? |
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 25, 2018 5:13:04 GMT
That does seem odd. This is all just played from your laptop into a hifi DAC connected to your main system, Jerry?
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 25, 2018 5:20:48 GMT
Yep, just the same way I play 99%+ of all my music these days.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 25, 2018 5:39:28 GMT
Interesting, Jerry. I can only play YouTube music through the system via Volumio and the SQ varies a lot. At its best, it can approach Spotify for SQ, at its worst it is unplayable.
Not having a subscription (or invitation) to the YT music player, I can't comment on the differences.
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Post by mikeyb on Jun 25, 2018 6:01:08 GMT
Not that anyone seems interested, but for the record .... I've been watching some YT music vids (Best of Slade [my guilty secret ] and Grigory Sokolov playing piano music by Armenian composer Komitas) and results are very strange. I've listened to them both via the YouTube Music streaming service and also the old fashioned way, going direct to the YouTube website. And they sound very, very different! What the hell is going on? Via YT Music streaming, the Slade sound quality is full toned with weighty bass, via the old YouTube website it is scrawny with no real oomph behind it at all. But the sq of the Komitas is the other way around - much better direct from the YT website and pretty poor from the streaming service. How weird is that? It will be due to the Slade video using 128kbps or less and the streaming service using 320. The classical video might be using 320 too, it all depends on the source. The Slade video might just have been uploaded off video tape by a YouTube user whereas the other video might be an official release* The streaming service is just Google Play rebadged as YouTube Music. *I'm just guessing so could be completely wrong lol. |
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 25, 2018 6:18:14 GMT
Hmm ... I guess I was assuming that both routes accessed the same music files.
But maybe not, because if so there is some rather strenuous signal processing going on with the new streaming service that seems to have varying affect.
All a bit puzzling.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 9:00:10 GMT
Not for me, I am more than happy with Spotify.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 25, 2018 10:09:30 GMT
Not that anyone seems interested, but for the record .... I've been watching some YT music vids (Best of Slade [my guilty secret ] and Grigory Sokolov playing piano music by Armenian composer Komitas) and results are very strange. I've listened to them both via the YouTube Music streaming service and also the old fashioned way, going direct to the YouTube website. And they sound very, very different! What the hell is going on? Via YT Music streaming, the Slade sound quality is full toned with weighty bass, via the old YouTube website it is scrawny with no real oomph behind it at all. But the sq of the Komitas is the other way around - much better direct from the YT website and pretty poor from the streaming service. How weird is that? I'm dead interested, especially after the above. Keep posting |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 25, 2018 12:40:20 GMT
I have doubts as to the range of music and doubts about the quality.
Unless it comes up to the SQ of Spotify or better, I'm not interested.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 25, 2018 12:52:06 GMT
Give it a few weeks and people "in the know" will start posting about the technical process(es) behind YouTube Premium, and why you're experiencing those anomalies, Jerry.
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 25, 2018 16:11:27 GMT
At the moment the classical catalogue is so appallingly sparse there isn't a chance I will start paying after 3 months unless there is several orders of magnitude improvement. There really is barely anything there at all. The only real plus I have so far found is that it provides a very good user interface for searching for and playing YT music videos. But it's not worth a tenner a month for that although I would happily use it for free.  |
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] and Grigory Sokolov playing piano music by Armenian composer Komitas) and results are very strange.
