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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 31, 2019 11:57:37 GMT
Thanks Chris
TPOs great in principle rather than practice.
On netting : I rescued a blue tit from some plastic netting that had been around a fatball. Little bugger pecked me as I was disentangling him/her too !
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 31, 2019 12:36:40 GMT
No, TPOs are fine and trees in designated Conservation Areas are protected in the same way.
Contrary to common belief, all trees are protected by The Forestry Act. You need a licence issued by the Forestry Commission to do it, and they will only issue one if you sign a contract to say you will replace them.
However, there are certain exemptions for those in gardens and orchards etc or for trees below a certain size. If a planning approval allows tree felling, then it trumps the need for a felling licence. Statutory undertakers (highways authorities and organisations managing services such as gas, power and water) have powers to remove trees.
Landowners are allowed to fell 5 cubic metres of timber per quarter without a licence, and this is the main thing that is abused. That clause in the legislation was created to allow owners of woodland (not just a few trees in a field) to sustainably fell a small quantity of timber in order to put it to use domestically.
Example: Sir Horatio needs to get the barn in the 20 acre field repaired because the roof is falling in. Well then, we'll let him fell a couple of his own trees (which were planted as a timber crop anyway) to carry out the repairs. He can't sell all of the timber though, just a bit that's left over at the end of the job.
Developers and landowners hoping to get their land sold for development will fell trees up to 5 m3 and the next quarter, they will fell another 5. That usually means waiting until the turn of the quarter and felling the first half on the last day of the current quarter and the second half the next day, which is the first day of the following quarter. If the timber is removed (but not sold), who is to say that there was 4.99 or 5.01 m3? The only evidence is the stumps.
If you break the law, get caught and by some quirk of bad luck, you get prosecuted and lose, the maximum fine is £2,500 or twice the value of the tree/s. Compare that to the amount of money to be made from a development and you can see why they might actually not care whether they get caught or not. It's effectively just another small expense that the business expects to possibly have to absorb.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 31, 2019 16:25:42 GMT
Thanks Chris Bet the developers know enough of that to make it work for themselves
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Post by MartinT on Apr 1, 2019 9:49:53 GMT
Effin, effin, effin, effin, effin Adobe.
Piece of shit software that doesn't even achieve the lowest levels of professionalism. I got a blue screen of death an hour and a half into running server update scripts. I knew I shouldn't have attempted to edit that photo just then. It's unforgivable, not another software application gives me BSODs on a stable platform. Ever.
I'm desperate to find alternatives for Photoshop, Illustrator and LightRoom but unfortunately all the teaching manuals follow Adobe processes.
And the excuse for a software company wants to put their rental prices up! I'm tempted to let all the licences just expire and see what happens. The thing is, their customer support being zero, they won't even care.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 10:06:24 GMT
Effin, effin, effin, effin, effin Adobe. Piece of shit software that doesn't even achieve the lowest levels of professionalism. I got a blue screen of death an hour and a half into running server update scripts. I knew I shouldn't have attempted to edit that photo just then. It's unforgivable, not another software application gives me BSODs on a stable platform. Ever. I'm desperate to find alternatives for Photoshop, Illustrator and LightBox but unfortunately all the teaching manuals follow Adobe processes. And the excuse for a software company wants to put their rental prices up! I'm tempted to let all the licences just expire and see what happens. The thing is, their customer support being zero, they won't even care. 100% agree with you, Adobe are utter crap!
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Post by Slinger on Apr 1, 2019 11:21:52 GMT
Martin, for image manipulation, take a look at Gimp. It's free, cross-platform, and it's open source too. It even handles Photoshop plugins. I haven't used it for a few years but when I was jointly running a graphics forum we reviewed it and it came out very well as I remember.
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Post by petea on Apr 1, 2019 12:34:34 GMT
Although we do have a few machines running Adobe PS, LR etc under Windows most of our image editing is done on Macs and it has always proven stable there. Although I use Lightroom as my main library / editing software I rely on Nik Software add-ins quite a bit (now owned by DxO after a few years stagnating under Google - who were only after Snapseed I reckon) and dip in and out of PS as required, my preferred editor is Capture One by PhaseOne. I use that for editing files from PhaseOne backs and really there is no reason not to use it in place of LR, and if fact I was using before I used LR. The original PhaseOne library software was a bit of struggle though and didn't integrate well with the editor which is why I switched to LR I think and now it would be painful to revert the main libraries back (the copy of LR just on my laptop has over 21,000 images in it). And it is in the integration, at least for photo editing, that I think Adobe win out. I find their video editing software a bit more of a struggle though and wish Apple hadn't buggered up their pro offering the way they did. DaVinci does grading a lot better, but it integrates well in the Adobe workflow as do some other add-ins and external processors.
Gimp is a good suggestion, but not for working on large batches of files in the way that you can in LR / PS although the general principles are the same. I used to really like PhotoPaint from Corel a lot and still think its clone tool betters the PS one, but it got left behind and then they bought PaintShop Pro (I've not tried their latest offering to see what got merged, dropped transferred to AfterShot etc). DxO have a photo-editing suite that is very well laid out and powerful, but quite heavy on automation and, again, is not used in the industry as widely as Adobe's offerings. There are others (eg Iridiant - the best for files originating from Foveon sensors, Corel After Shot Pro), and I have tried most at one time or another, plus some specialised software for stacking such as Helicon and Zyrene (Helicon is my preferred choice for 'manual' stacking whereas Zyrene is great for controlling steppers and stacking).
Although I was initially annoyed by Adobe's subscription model I have found that, in a commercial environment at least, it works well and I would struggle to recommend an alternative and, given its prevalence in the industry, I can see why the school base their teaching around it and I think I would do the same especially if the objective was to give students skills that would transfer to the workplace: for art projects though I'd be tempted by Gimp or one of the Corel offerings though.
Hmm, that quick reply grew a bit!
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Post by Slinger on Apr 1, 2019 13:02:45 GMT
...given its prevalence in the industry, I can see why the school base their teaching around it and I think I would do the same especially if the objective was to give students skills that would transfer to the workplace: for art projects though I'd be tempted by Gimp or one of the Corel offerings though. This.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 1, 2019 13:44:20 GMT
Martin, for image manipulation, take a look at Gimp. It's free, cross-platform, and it's open source too. It even handles Photoshop plugins. I haven't used it for a few years but when I was jointly running a graphics forum we reviewed it and it came out very well as I remember. Thanks, Paul. I've been looking at using Gimp. The user interface puts me off but I'm going to persevere.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 1, 2019 13:47:23 GMT
Gimp is a good suggestion, but not for working on large batches of files in the way that you can in LR / PS although the general principles are the same. I used to really like PhotoPaint from Corel a lot and still think its clone tool betters the PS one, but it got left behind and then they bought PaintShop Pro (I've not tried their latest offering to see what got merged, dropped transferred to AfterShot etc). I used to like both Corel PhotoPaint and PaintShop Pro, haven't looked at them for a long time. I shall try Gimp again.
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Post by Slinger on Apr 1, 2019 13:55:00 GMT
There are Gimp tutorials on their site, and on YouTube too, Martin.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 1, 2019 14:57:43 GMT
I tried Gimp and this latest version is quite a lot more user friendly than the version I tested last year. I think we're going to get on just fine
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Post by Slinger on May 9, 2019 19:40:11 GMT
Just a tiny one, but it genuinely does grind my gears - use of the word "oblong" instead of "rectangle".
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Post by MartinT on May 9, 2019 20:18:35 GMT
You must be having a no-news day, Paul
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Post by petea on May 9, 2019 21:34:09 GMT
But isn't an oblong a subset of rectangles?
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Post by ChrisB on May 9, 2019 22:02:54 GMT
An oblong is a leaf shape. They are kind of rectangular in proportion, but not really in rectangular in a geometrical sense - oblongus leaves don't usually have straight edges and right angled corners! I think the Latin does really mean rectangular as we know it, though.
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Post by petea on May 9, 2019 22:08:34 GMT
I thought the geometric definition of an oblong was that is has four right angles and opposite sides of equal length, but with one set longer than the other.
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Post by petea on May 9, 2019 22:12:13 GMT
You are right, a non rectilinear oblong doesn't have straight sides ( I suddenly thought of oblate diatoms and had to look it up!). You can have a rectangle with equal length sides though: a square!
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Post by petea on May 9, 2019 22:14:38 GMT
Anyway, having annoyed Slinger even more with all this nonsense about oblongs, I have an annoyance of my own (thanks to my in box). Companies that email me to tell me my latest invoice/statement etc can be found by logging into their site. Why not just email me the bloody thing in the first place!
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Post by ChrisB on May 9, 2019 22:30:49 GMT
I vaguely remember being taught something about adjacent sides being unequal, which was how a rectangle differed from a square. My memory is not good and my teacher was probably a little below par, too though!
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