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Post by speedysteve on Dec 17, 2016 12:28:14 GMT
Nokia againInteresting. In the death throws of Nokia (I was working there in Farnborough at the time), the Android SW platform was tried on the then HW. The powers that be at the time decided MS would be a better bet! Margins are small on Android. Personally I'm interested as I want competent RF and HW like Nokia and Ericsson can make and a decent OS without the app / compatibility problems you run into with WP. I will be changing phones in July - perhaps one of these could be a contender.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 17, 2016 13:22:47 GMT
without the app / compatibility problems you run into with WP Not being difficult, but what app/compatibility problems? I have everything I want on WP and it all works seamlessly. I learned another lesson about the other phone platforms the other day: we just got BYOD printing working on our system at work, and the students love it. However, when we were testing it (e-mail the Office/PDF document to print to a special e-mail address), my Windows Phone did it all, including the pop-up credit authorisation, seamlessly. The Android phone took considerably longer to do the same job. The iPhone was completely hopeless, due to it not having a proper file system. The lesson was: if you want a productive, seamless, business oriented phone platform, Windows Phone trounces the opposition. |
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Post by Clive on Dec 17, 2016 14:28:18 GMT
This iPhone file system thing seems to be a pain. I've just got an iPhone from work, my personal phone is android. How with an iPhone do I attach a file to an email....other than a photo? It seems like the apps all have their own file locations to which I don't have access.
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 17, 2016 16:44:35 GMT
BBC compatibility on WP is bad, they just seem to boycott it. No apps like MyBU (for Uni timetables, schedules etc), Snap chat. Often I'll see something and it only states I & Android compatible. I can't remember them but you start to feel passed over  |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 17, 2016 20:13:39 GMT
This iPhone file system thing seems to be a pain It's a royal pain, a result of walled-garden app design. No common file system, no ability to attach documents to e-mails in the standard manner. I can't stand it, personally. |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 17, 2016 20:16:24 GMT
BBC compatibility on WP is bad, they just seem to boycott it. No apps like MyBU (for Uni timetables, schedules etc), Snap chat. Agreed that the BBC (and Sky) make no effort, which pisses me off as a) I pay the BBC licence fee and b) I pay Sky a handsome sum each month. I always make a point of asking them where the Windows app is, knowing full well there isn't one. However, the browser is superb and everything works as you would expect. Other apps I just don't care about. Snapchat? Please! |
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Post by Tim on Dec 18, 2016 7:32:10 GMT
without the app / compatibility problems you run into with WP Not being difficult, but what app/compatibility problems? I have everything I want on WP and it all works seamlessly. You are bring difficult Martin as there's oodles of app problems with WP, many that are cut down versions or just not available which is why they don't sell well. They are great phones but if they don't do what an Android or iPhone can, then folk won't buy them and clearly they aren't, despite amazing deals, great hardware and IMO the best O/S on a handset. You may have all you need but the majority who are used to what the other platforms offer aren't, which explains the new direction old bean  |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 18, 2016 10:03:06 GMT
I have every app I need. Not being difficult, but are you saying the hundreds of thousands of useless apps out there make a difference?
It's nearly all perception, not reality.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 11:41:41 GMT
I have a Windows phone based on Nokia and have to agree with Martin. The integration with Office is excellent. I have the apps I need - bus tracker, Uber, weather, cello tuner, authenticator etc and they are the same as the Apple and Android versions. There are some apps that are not as good (Trainline springs to mind) but I don't worry about that in the least.
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Post by Tim on Dec 18, 2016 16:34:48 GMT
No argument there, it's integration with Office is superb, it's all the missing or reduced functionality apps that made me jump ship and buy an Android phone. My reality is it does about 50% of what I need from a smartphone, so it's doesn't cut the mustard  |
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 18, 2016 20:41:00 GMT
No argument there, it's integration with Office is superb, it's all the missing or reduced functionality apps that made me jump ship and buy an Android phone. My reality is it does about 50% of what I need from a smartphone, so it's doesn't cut the mustard Which android phone did you go for? Would you consider Nokia android next Tim?
Okay easier to answer that when we actually see their offerings but based on what we know of Nokia HW and Android OS.. |
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Post by markgrant on Dec 19, 2016 9:11:55 GMT
Looking forward to seeing what they release My very first phone was a Nokia back in the old days when I was lucky to find any coverage at all in the north and I stuck with them for years but they fell by the wayside. ideally to get back on track Nokia need something with the very best camera, great Nokia build quality and clean Android without any bloat. Like a Motorola G4 but with a great camera and Nokia build. |
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Post by Tim on Dec 19, 2016 9:26:02 GMT
I went for the 64GB Motorola X Force Steve, great phone with a very long battery life and superb camera. I have a 128GB memory card in it too, so masses of storage for music and photography. It also has a very tough screen, supposedly unbreakable? I've dropped it 3 times so far without issue. Yes I would go for a Nokia, my Moto X is the first non Nokia phone I have owned, as I count my Windows phone as a Nokia. Sadly that got relegated to storage after about 3 months use due to its lack of functionality |
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 19, 2016 10:38:55 GMT
Thanks. I'll bear Motorola in mind too when the time comes In the meantime I've acquired Google drive apps for PC and Win phone (Metrodrive) and am enjoying it's 16GB free offering I tried a WP Translator (seemed to be an equivalent to Google translate) and could just not get it to use the camera translate function at all. This is for Japanese BTW. Another App I miss on WP is Racquet Tune - this measures the strung tension of a Tennis racquet. Great for checking your Stringing machine job settings against real world and monitoring tension loss over time. I had to side load a version from Google play on to the Wife's Kindle to get my hands on it! |
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Post by Tim on Dec 19, 2016 11:21:05 GMT
The Motorola phones are very good, what I like about them is they use a stock version of Android, so they are fast and everything seems to just work. The battery life is a real bonus.
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Post by markgrant on Mar 3, 2017 10:12:07 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Mar 3, 2017 10:48:53 GMT
The problem with Android phones is... Android. For instance, a few of our students have Sony Experia phones. Very nice phone indeed, but the Android build they put on it is pretty horrible. Setting up wi-fi on 802.1X (typical for corporates) is way harder to do than on a Samsung. It's this variation that I find annoying. Hopefully Nokia are using a better build.
Still much nicer than iOS, though.
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Post by speedysteve on Mar 3, 2017 13:31:33 GMT
I want one already.
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