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Post by MartinT on Jun 18, 2016 14:38:18 GMT
So what do you like that will never get play time in a Hi-Fi show but still touches your inner self?
Hawkwind - Space Ritual Sounds like it was recorded on a Philips dictation machine from outside of the gig venue. Nevertheless, I love this album and it has never been far from my playlist, especially in the car. Brilliant Sonic Attack and Orgone Accumulator.
ELP - Triple Live (Welcome Back My Friends...) With slightly better SQ than the Hawkwind (well, it has boom and a little mid but not much tizz) and at least recorded inside the venue! It has quite the greatest battle scene depiction from Tarkus ever and is a superb live performance of some of their greatest material.
Any Coldplay Album No, really. Let me highlight X&Y as one of their best albums musically, with some really well crafted songs. However, it's best heard on a lo-fi transistor radio. Do NOT play it on your hi-fi system for fear of the latter rebelling and shutting down under protest.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 18, 2016 15:09:19 GMT
After a period on the upgrade trail of hearing favourite albums getting worse and worse I now find some albums seem to be improving, certainly much better than expected. Not a scientific study !
Don't know any of the above but I do have some badly recorded live albums I must dig out to check. Perhaps Colosseum Live to start with as that is one of the best *music* albums in the world ever and from memory is quite well done Then onto some of the know horrors. Perhaps the self titled Kokomo will improve - please
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Post by Tim on Jun 18, 2016 16:15:24 GMT
However, it's best heard on a lo-fi transistor radio. Do NOT play it on your hi-fi system Or better still, never subject your ears to any of it Didn't know you liked Coldplay Martin? I most definitely agree with the do not play it advice though, period.
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Post by Tim on Jun 18, 2016 16:21:43 GMT
My guilty secret of muaic that touches, but would never make a Hi-fi show would be I guess . . . . bugger, I sat here for ages and do you know what, I can't answer that! Probably most of the music I like to be honest, but then I really don't much give a stuff about hi-fi, but I do love my music - not quite sure what that means?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 16:22:36 GMT
I can forgive ELP and Hawkwind for SQ but Coldplay really have no excuse with today's recording facilities. Thankfully I'm not mad keen on their music.
It's a long time since I've had systems that fall apart with poor recordings. My first pair of ES14s paired with a Rock and Myst Tma3 were either breathtaking or dire depending on the recording. It taught me that I have a low tolerance for such systems and I've shied away from anything with similar tendencies since. It's funny because neither the Myst or Epos do this on their own. The Rock does have such a tendency though IMO. It's not a favourite deck of mine any more: Too over-damped.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 18, 2016 17:06:18 GMT
Didn't know you liked Coldplay Martin? I most definitely agree with the do not play it advice though, period. You do them an injustice, Tim. They have written some great songs. Remember when it was popular to denigrate Dire Straits, for the same reasons? I like them too! Never let it be said that my musical likes are influenced by such 'fashion'!
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Post by MartinT on Jun 18, 2016 17:07:26 GMT
but then I really don't much give a stuff about hi-fi Yes, you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be here and you wouldn't carefully choose some nice kit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 18:48:18 GMT
Cold plays X & Y one of if not the most compressed and truly appalling sounding pieces of music of all time even after all the cd treatments imaginable and being graced by great systems it still sounds like a rat having it tail put throw a waste disposal unit whilst high of on speed
I wonder what the mastering engineer thought when he push go on the finial version
Should hang his head in shame redefines tripe of the first order
Another grim example what's the story morning glory Oasis
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 18:50:01 GMT
Any Coldplay AlbumNo, really. Let me highlight X&Y as one of their best albums musically, with some really well crafted songs. However, it's best heard on a lo-fi transistor radio. Do NOT play it on your hi-fi system for fear of the latter rebelling and shutting down under protest. That made me laugh and I couldn't agree more. I like their latest two albums the most but their album recording/production is terrible, they really should be embarrassed!
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Post by MartinT on Jun 18, 2016 20:37:11 GMT
I wonder what the mastering engineer thought when he push go on the finial version Should hang his head in shame redefines tripe of the first order He should have been taken out the back and shot. I can't imagine the circumstances whereby someone signed off on it.
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Post by Tim on Jun 19, 2016 0:27:31 GMT
but then I really don't much give a stuff about hi-fi Yes, you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be here and you wouldn't carefully choose some nice kit Hahaha, busted. Still don't like Coldplay though.
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Post by John on Jun 19, 2016 6:43:42 GMT
I have albums like Stranger in the Night by UFO that I love put it on a really good system and sounds 2 dimensional On a basic stereo sounds great I am not sure I would hear any of the music I enjoy at show I much prefer to visit people and hear music in the real world
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Post by zippy on Jun 19, 2016 8:15:50 GMT
My wife likes Elton John, but I've yet to hear an EJ album that doesn't make me leave the room after 5 minutes - the recording quality is dire on all of them.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2016 8:47:36 GMT
Even Yellow Brick Road? The intro on Funeral for a Friend is not bad at all.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2016 11:30:15 GMT
There are many less severe examples out there of great music somewhat hampered by poor studio recording/mixing/mastering. Kate Bush's later albums all suffer from compression and a muddled sound, mostly I'm led to believe because she messes with the production in the studio. Much as I love Kate's output, she should leave a professional in charge of the sound. Many others suffer from an excess of digital artifacts, for instance the Ray Lamontagne album Ouroboros which is simply harsh when things get busy. I say 'digital', I don't know what it is but just at the moments where I want it to soar, it jars instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 11:34:45 GMT
My wife likes Elton John, but I've yet to hear an EJ album that doesn't make me leave the room after 5 minutes - the recording quality is dire on all of them. I find Elton John albums to be average, not badly recorded but not great either.
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Post by John on Jun 19, 2016 11:38:27 GMT
There are many less severe examples out there of great music somewhat hampered by poor studio recording/mixing/mastering. Kate Bush's later albums all suffer from compression and a muddled sound, mostly I'm led to believe because she messes with the production in the studio. Much as I love Kate's output, she should leave a professional in charge of the sound. Many others suffer from an excess of digital artifacts, for instance the Ray Lamontagne album Ouroboros which is simply harsh when things get busy. I say 'digital', I don't know what it is but just at the moments where I want it to soar, it jars instead. Interesting how we still perceive this as digital glare but more to do with the recording
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Post by davidf on Jun 19, 2016 12:08:38 GMT
Many others suffer from an excess of digital artifacts, for instance the Ray Lamontagne album Ouroboros which is simply harsh when things get busy. I say 'digital', I don't know what it is but just at the moments where I want it to soar, it jars instead. That's a shame. I've only heard a few tracks on Radio Paradise so far and it sounds fine on that, but they're quite laid back tracks with no noisy bits. I wonder if the vinyl is the same? Or whether it is an issue with the way it was recorded?
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Post by zippy on Jun 19, 2016 12:13:12 GMT
Even Yellow Brick Road? The intro on Funeral for a Friend is not bad at all. Strange you should say that, as I have the high res download (24/96) of YBR and it's one of the worst albums - most tracks sound very harsh to my ears. I'll have to listen again to that track.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2016 18:39:31 GMT
I have a pre-remastered double CD and it sounds ok, will listen again.
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