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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 19, 2016 13:46:08 GMT
In case you forgot how good he was. His last show
Surprises me how very good it is
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 15:16:10 GMT
This illustrates the deterioration in sound quality from BBC in the last decade. Peel obviously not playing digital files and some vinyl as well as CD! So sad he then went on holiday and died suddenly - still in fine form here.
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 19, 2016 15:21:34 GMT
I thought he would be around a lot longer - as was his intention. Big hole in many lives after he went
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Post by Slinger on Feb 19, 2016 15:29:37 GMT
J.P. was/is one of my all-time musical heroes because he brought so much fresh music to the ears of the uninitiated. O.K. so all of us didn't like all of the things he played but (alongside Bob Harris perhaps) I think he introduced more "unknown" bands to the listening public than anyone on radio. I know a lot of people think Peely has been over-hyped but personally I don't think you can underestimate his value to those struggling new bands whose tapes he played and who did "Peel Sessions" on the show, many of whom went on to become household names. Well, they did in this household anyway. And even if those bands never did make it, John Peel gave them their 15 minutes of fame, and gave us the chance to make our own minds up about them, which nobody else would.
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 19, 2016 15:49:38 GMT
The vast majority of my music came from JP There are kids who never heard him who I assume would be baffled why he is so well thought of by so many. Guess you had to be there.
This one on the RHS from 1978 is also still good
Never liked Reggae but I was even glad to hear the Reggae tracks
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Post by orbscure on Feb 19, 2016 18:12:44 GMT
Much missed here too... famously played the whole of side one of Tubular Bells when it was released and his comments on the album (which can be heard here) made the subsequent music press adverts. Can't believe its 12 years since his untimely departure
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 24, 2016 15:42:32 GMT
Thinking of who JP put me onto.....
Easier to note those he *didn't* put me onto -and some of those I might find he did !
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Post by MartinT on Feb 24, 2016 20:42:34 GMT
I'm going to be controversial here. I respect JP but he had very little influence on me as I didn't listen to him. It was more Nicky Horne and Bob Harris for me.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 24, 2016 21:12:14 GMT
Whilst my brother was listening to John Peel, the only radio show I always used to listen to every week was The Friday Rock Show with Tommy Vance - 'TV on the radio' ...
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 24, 2016 21:25:45 GMT
I was used to being the only one I knew listening to Peel so was delighted to find some others who shared him.
Nicky Horne I barely remember.
Mike Sparrow was probably next, Radio London and Emperor Roscoe !
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Post by Tim on Feb 24, 2016 21:26:56 GMT
Whilst my brother was listening to John Peel, the only radio show I always used to listen to every week was The Friday Rock Show with Tommy Vance - 'TV on the radio' ... Tommy was a great guy, larger than life.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 25, 2016 14:29:15 GMT
Indeed - I never knew until recently that TV's birth name was Richard Anthony Crispian Francis Prew Hope-Weston !!
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 25, 2016 14:33:02 GMT
I would be surprised if even he could remember that lot!
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Post by Tim on Feb 25, 2016 15:09:35 GMT
Indeed - I never knew until recently that TV's birth name was Richard Anthony Crispian Francis Prew Hope-Weston !! Yup, I know his son, Daniel Hope-Weston and I've been scuba diving with him in the Red Sea. Nice lad.
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 25, 2016 15:31:46 GMT
and a connection to Peel
Brian Peter George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 15, 2024 11:29:41 GMT
Looking up the well known, yea famous To Rococo Rot I found they had a John Peel Session on Qobuz Good. I like it
Cue search on John Peel to see what else. Lots
If some of your favourites ever did a John Peel session have a look on your streamer I remember The Fall session tracks always sounded better than their album tracks
Magazine sounding excellent 70 Gwen Party a bit rough on the first track but maybe that's how they wanted it Ruts and many others to come
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Post by Slinger on Feb 15, 2024 22:36:50 GMT
I loved Peely to death, and as a bonus he was a die-hard Liverpool FC supporter too. Sadly, many stories have surfaced lately - some of which were alluded to in his biographies - about his predilection for early-teen schoolgirls both here and in the States back in the day. My admiration and adoration has become rather clouded. SOURCE
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 16, 2024 16:35:42 GMT
Looked around all of that Didn't dig deep enough to see the original quote in the 1975 Gruaniad Struggling to believe it is all kosher and as written I knew he married the girl in Texas. Assume her parents had to give consent
2022 is a hell of a long time from when he was footloose and fancy free. The 1960s were a world away from where we are now Why wasn't this brought up when he was alive and able to speak for himself? Any response from Shelagh ?
If all of that were true do I agree with it, no Would I have done that in my 20s ? Doubt it but I wasn't in the music business with girls making themselves available to me, probably fuelled by chemical substances by all parties
The article infers much and belongs in 2024 but talks about the 60s
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Post by Slinger on Feb 16, 2024 17:15:45 GMT
They WERE different times, and there was a whole " sexy schoolgirls" industry built on seaside postcards to St Trinians films to Telly comedies. This shot of Beryl Reed with some of the "girls" comes from 1954 And this is from the 2007 St Trinians film. I don't think there's a " girl" under 20 in either of those shots, but they make lusting after young girls almost respectable. Then there was Benny Hill and his ilk, sexualising schoolgirls on prime-time TV on any given night of the week. It's taken us a long to to alter our mindsets and appreciate that shagging 14 and 15-year olds is, perhaps, not something one should aspire to. And not JUST because it's illegal. Peel doing that, because he was such a great bloke, and a cultural hero to so many of us almost seems to give him an exemption, but if that's OK then what about other well-known paedophiles of the era, including the most famous of them all, Jimmy Saville, who preyed on children, including schoolgirls, whilst counting Margaret Thatcher as a close friend, until she finally had to take the warnings of her advisors seriously and kicked him to the kerb. Should Saville been seen through the same lens as Peel, or should we look at John Peel, and the many other music-industry luminaries who had "it" offered to them " on a plate" (YES Led Zeppelin, I'm looking at you) the same way we look at Saville and co? What defence can we offer John? " Well, at least they were willing and he didn't have to rape them," is about the extent of it. At the end of the day though, they were still children, but I'm willing to bet that some of us have the same sort of skeletons rattling around in our closets.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 16, 2024 17:52:48 GMT
It does require an altered mindset and what was 'acceptable' then certainly isn't considered that any more.
I chatted with Jimmy Page on more than one occasion while we were picking up our children from school, waiting for the judo to finish. Do I think any less of him now? No, I thought of him as a nice bloke who happens to be a guitar god back then and still do now.
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