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Post by Tim on Jan 20, 2016 23:57:43 GMT
I'm a lot more crazy than 'just a little'
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Post by John on Jan 21, 2016 4:37:08 GMT
Lol Seems a few people these days buy records but no intention of ever playing them
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Post by Tim on Jan 21, 2016 7:36:18 GMT
Ah, I definitely intend to play them John, just my present circumstances that prevent that. When I eventually return to the UK I won't be moving again and can put some roots down in my own home. When that happens I will have a permanent TT setup and a nice collection to play on it. Still modest compared to my file based system, which will always be my primary source.
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Post by John on Jan 21, 2016 7:55:07 GMT
That is good to hear Tim No need to get too OTT around a turntable after all its about enjoying the music first Not long now Tim before you leave
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Post by MartinT on Jan 21, 2016 8:32:30 GMT
A PL12D would be great. Also an old Rega or Pro-Ject if you can find one at the £100 mark.
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Post by Pinch on Jan 21, 2016 8:43:43 GMT
Thanks for the recommendations guys Keep 'em coming! My Son has a good condition Pioneer PL12D (condition includes the finish of the plinth and cover) he would be happy to sell within a £100 budget. I can't specifically speak for him on this so I would need to consult him on a deal. What I can say is I absolutely know the history of this deck as it was owned by my parents from new and then moved onto my son on their death. In consequence, I know it has had very little use from new to the present time and could be a steal of a buy if your friend is so inclined. I would expect it needs a new belt by now, although my son may well have replaced this previously. It has the original arm. I'm not sure on the cartridge, but I suspect something like, or even a Shure M75ED which, considering the relatively low use, I would expect to still be useable. If your friend is interested, please PM me. Wow, Greg, that's an amazing offer, thank you. I'll discuss it with the person in question. I'd actually be slightly reticent though because, to be honest, I don't know how well she'll look after it - this will be a first turntable for someone who, I think, is more into the idea of vinyl playback than the reality. Perhaps I'm being unkind, but I wouldn't want something that's been with you for so long to go to a bad home. I'll discuss it with her though. Anyone know anything about the Technics SL-D202? I've seen one of these going for very little indeed. The main consideration, aside from working, is that it takes a MM cartridge - she was initially looking at the various Crosleys, but I dissuaded her from these after reading reports that the ceramic cartridges can wear the groove excessively, and it seems ridiculous to spend money on nice records if your TT is then going to trash them. She has a standard level of concern for how it sounds (that is, not much).
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Post by Pinch on Jan 21, 2016 14:20:00 GMT
So just won the SL-D202 for £22 ( link). It was sold as 'parts/not working', but from the description it shouldn't take much to get it up and running, plus there's a 14 day return period, so very low risk.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 21, 2016 14:37:45 GMT
I know where DC is coming from, and fully accept that both the Techies mentioned above (SL1300 and SL1800) will need switches cleaned, ageing exit cable replaced I can't believe what a bottleneck the supplied cable is by now, bearing lubed etc... but they are potentially fantastic sounding products (remove lid when playing, site carefully etc. etc.) that will work properly with any modern cartridge.
ALL old decks will need a service of some sort - and you can include Dual 500 series' too to the list. But many of them are worth it in spades.
P.S. Not ALL Techies were good. Avoid the SL2000 like the plague - servo-hunting motor, high arm friction and insubstantial chassis, the belt drive SL20 is actually able to sound far better, but watch the motor servo parts, as some failk and cannot be replaced now..
P.P.S. There's a nice looking Garrard SL95B in eBay right now. It's capable of great sounds despite the inferior fine engineering to a Dual for example, is kind to modern cartridges BUT, like the idler Duals such as the 1216 and family from the same era, the mech will probably be glued up with hardened grease and will need a partial or full strip down sadly...
PL12-D's sell for HOW MUCH these days?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 18:29:01 GMT
Not if his mate has a vinyl collection In which case he would already have a turntable ! Not me, I have a reasonable Vinyl collection but nothing to play it on since I sold my LP12 last year to fund a streamer
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Post by DaveC on Jan 21, 2016 18:52:58 GMT
OK, got that.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 21, 2016 22:28:19 GMT
It would be good for prospective vintage turntable purchasers to learn how to solder. It took a couple of mid 70's techies abd Duals to show me that the audio exit cables to the amp could be easily replaced to advantage, despite the basic quality of the original cable when new. There's a good supplier on eBay who sells a made up exit cable plus earthing wire for the SL1200mk2> which should be easily adapted for other decks of this age.
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Post by Pinch on Jan 24, 2016 17:19:20 GMT
So the SL-D202 just arrived. No time to give it some proper TLC yet, but just attached a cartridge and calibrated the arm and it seems to work perfectly, and certainly sounds more than adequate for the task
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Post by John on Jan 24, 2016 17:27:40 GMT
Result
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Post by MartinT on Jan 24, 2016 17:46:10 GMT
Yes!
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 24, 2016 21:09:44 GMT
Bargain! - well done.
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Post by saucerful on Jan 11, 2018 4:38:32 GMT
I am the original owner of my SL-D202 - purchased in early 1981 in USA for $125 including an Audio Technica LS200 cartridge. The only problems I have had with it are, 1) the tonearm return eventually stopped working - easy fix in removing gray rubber plug at base of gimbal and adjusting the screw. 2) The power on button has become gummy. I am afraid to spray anything in there so just leave it on and turn the table on via switched power supply as plugged into my integrated amp. I see where a Mike New manufactures custom upgrade bearings for the Technics SL1210. Kind of pricey, but I would love to have this kind of option for the D202. Check it out at hifipig.com/mike-new-bearing-for-technics-1210-turntable/PS: I love the removable headshell on this. Headshells are very inexpensive - under $10 and often get them for free with new cartridges. I got my Stanton 500 that way. I mainly use an Ortofon FF15XEMkII, but also have a B&O MMC4 for use on very fine vinyl. Planning on rewiring the motor speed resistors to an external switch so I can get 78rpm (Stanton has an affordable 78 stylus). Cheers!
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Post by MartinT on Jan 11, 2018 6:17:01 GMT
I have a Mike New bearing in my 1210 (and the base plate mod and ETP platter), it certainly takes performance to a higher level. I'm not even sure Mike is making them any more but they only fit the 1210 as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 14:16:59 GMT
I picked my STD '305' up dirt cheap, Its a superb underaturd turntable.
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Post by dsjr on Jan 11, 2018 21:42:54 GMT
I'm a huge fan of earlier Duals as some of the better ones do 'sound' really good in my opinion, but most are suffering from dried lubricants now and if tampered with by people not versed in mechanical things, can be ruined. A 1015 with plinth and cartridge is still a sleeper and I've seen them for well under a ton. I was given a 1009sk2 as it was bought for the cartridge alone and once the solidified grease is cleaned and replaced and a suitable plinth found for it, it'll be almost as good as the revered 1019, which with its 7lb platter, is one of the classics. The 1216 is a goodie too and at the time, was often sold with the then ubiquitous Shure 75-ED, as it was quite safe tracking under 1.25g.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 21:56:55 GMT
btw: If anyone sees a mint STD '305D' id be interested..
Dave:
Shame Dual did not do those decks armless.
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