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Post by ChrisB on Dec 29, 2015 10:35:55 GMT
So that's a no then, thought so ! Dave, I am trying to keep the baggage off the thread as we have already explained. I have spoken to you about your question before and while you posted the above, I was typing a reminder to you by PM. |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 29, 2015 10:36:14 GMT
I would post here more often, but I would continually fall foul of the trade rules as it's impossible to separate the two. This is a good point, and has previously been raised by a few other members from the trade. It's quite manageable: - Act as a member in your own capacity - Respond to any technical or other product questions as appropriate - Don't make direct selling posts or obvious adverts unless it is in response to a question - Take any selling activities to PM |
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Post by DaveC on Dec 29, 2015 10:57:33 GMT
OK thanks, I only sell, manufacture and distribute products I like and use myself. I don't earn a living from HiFi so I don't need to sell stuff I don't use or like, or dislike the importer !!!.
It is though simply impossible to separate me from my company, I live and breath it.
But if recommendations are OK in response to a question, then that would be fine. Apart from this thread, is it documented somewhere ?
I go to CES, AES, Munich and Rocky Mountain so have a lot of experience going back to 1964 and especially from 1980 onwards.
Thanks
Dave
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Post by John on Dec 29, 2015 11:18:33 GMT
Its be documented loads of times Dave when trade have asked the same question. Both Stan and Tony C get the balance right
We have a few members who really get the balance right.
Its not that we anti trade we just want a reasonable balance in the past we seen to much hard sell.
As been said before none of us get any money from the forum we have no intention of ever going down that route
We will separate the thread so that it can be just a place for the loan of NVA
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Post by DaveC on Dec 29, 2015 11:33:37 GMT
OK, it's just that I can't see any of that documentation. Not sure what your third sentence means though.
Dave
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Post by MartinT on Dec 29, 2015 13:32:06 GMT
It wasn't aimed at you, Dave. All we want is a forum that is not in the pocket of any vendor, so that the members can trust the opinions given.
We do, however, greatly value the participation of members from the trade, to quickly respond with authority to questions asked.
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Post by John on Dec 29, 2015 13:49:16 GMT
Sorry Dave my sentence was certainly not aimed at you. I think many people would benefit from your depth of knowledge on TAS
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 14:48:25 GMT
OK thanks, I only sell, manufacture and distribute products I like and use myself. I don't earn a living from HiFi so I don't need to sell stuff I don't use or like, or dislike the importer !!!. It is though simply impossible to separate me from my company, I live and breath it. But if recommendations are OK in response to a question, then that would be fine. Apart from this thread, is it documented somewhere ? I go to CES, AES, Munich and Rocky Mountain so have a lot of experience going back to 1964 and especially from 1980 onwards. Thanks Dave Dave: you're a hugely knowledgeable and highly qualified bloke whose posts I enjoy and learn from. I hope you do post more and FWIW I can't recall a single post from you that's looked remotely like a sales pitch. |
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Post by DaveC on Dec 29, 2015 17:12:47 GMT
OK, just returned from a windy walk at Hope Cove.
Thank you for the vote of confidence ! I'm working on a new EQ for shellac and a new SP-10 motor controller. I enjoy this so much and it can often take me away to Silicon Heaven for a few days at a time.
Thanks again
Dave
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Post by dsjr on Dec 29, 2015 17:54:03 GMT
Hope I don't come over too heavy in defence of NVA. I know I'm freelance and not 'employed' as such, but obviously I'm able to see rather beyond the external styling, if you see what I mean. Doesn't stop me loving other gear including amps either I feel.
Dave, the SP10 is well ripe for some serious restoration and updating to its power supply/controller. Why the SL1210 got all the attention and baggage (NVA may have baggage, but it's absolutely nothing compared to the SL1200mk2>). I don't really know, especially when the SP10 was always quietly sidelined every time it was mentioned in the early days and my opinion was that it's a far superior product in practically every way. Perhaps it isn't really, but I lusted after one back in the day and it was only the Scottish Springdek that swayed me to the dark side for twelve years or so...
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Post by DaveC on Dec 29, 2015 18:14:37 GMT
The SP-10 might be the best turntable in the world, but every one I have seen, and that's nearly 100, has had some fault or another. I think we are way off topic here ? !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 18:19:05 GMT
Technics are developing a new deck which I suspect will be closer to SP10 than SL1200.
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Post by Weecrackpot on Dec 29, 2015 21:11:02 GMT
The SP-10 might be the best turntable in the world, but every one I have seen, and that's nearly 100, has had some fault or another. I think we are way off topic here ? ! Thats the reason i walked away from buying a SP10 with it's power supply for £450.00, reason being i always feel these direct drives looks complicated with their fancy circuit boards/power supplies to keep in spinning, if something goes wrong it's a expensive fix, hence i've ever ventured in that direction staying with belt now idler. |
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Post by DaveC on Dec 29, 2015 23:08:55 GMT
Indeed, they are £15K+ superdecks and like old supercars are not for the faint hearted or those with a limited budget. Even my upcoming replacement board set won't be cheap. By contrast a SL-1200 works out of the box, has a spares pool of 3 million units and is close to a SP-10.
A SP-10 needs a rebuild or new boards, a new PSU, a proper plinth, a £3K tonearm, a £1-2K cartridge, so factor in £5-7K to get something that will compete with a Model 30 ?
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Post by Weecrackpot on Dec 29, 2015 23:52:15 GMT
Not for the faint hearted indeed, i figured i would have had to throw a good wedge at it, glad i passed it by.
P.S. heard a SME 20, loved it.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 30, 2015 21:15:18 GMT
These posts were spun off from the NVA Loan Scheme thread in order to keep that one clean.
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Post by dsjr on Dec 31, 2015 13:41:01 GMT
Dave, we ALL know who you are, as I think most if not all know of my trade 'association' with NVA as I wield a soldering iron for them as best as I can. I don't think it matters *here* since we both have our trade credentials on show in our signatures as requested.
Granny sucking eggs and do as I suggest, not as I sometimes do, but any recommendations you give could be from your experience and I'm sure not seen as a self-shilling exercise? I love what NVA amps do, but I still love other things as I've tried to show and leaving the Krell on all day (the plateau-bias keeps it cool under idle conditions) has shown me how good it can be once stabilised through for an hour or two and my recently rejuvenated and very fond friendship with 'my' old Quad 33/303 (33 now with replacement transistors to finish off the Dada updates) fills me with admiration for the design team, bearing in mind what they had to work with in solid state back in the mid 60's.
I for one am sick of the Techie SL1200mk2> series 'me too' add-on mods and the general angst recently about the plastic platter, for good reason I should add, but there you go. I would LOVE to see some work develop on what I regard as the superior SP10 models, so PLEASE PLEASE keep us informed, with measurements too if you don't mind, of your developments with a supply box for this model. I also wonder what a VERY solid cast plinth would do for it as well, although weight and cost may be sky high all things considered.
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Post by dsjr on Dec 31, 2015 13:43:51 GMT
Even my upcoming replacement board set won't be cheap. By contrast a SL-1200 works out of the box, has a spares pool of 3 million units and is close to a SP-10. A SP-10 needs a rebuild or new boards, a new PSU, a proper plinth, a £3K tonearm, a £1-2K cartridge, so factor in £5-7K to get something that will compete with a Model 30 ? Nah - just stick a cheapo Jelco arm on a nicely plinthed one and a DL110 at least and it'll make good music 
I get your point though :grin:
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Post by DaveC on Dec 31, 2015 13:55:33 GMT
Nah - just stick a cheapo Jelco arm on a nicely plinthed one and a DL110 at least and it'll make good music
I get your point though :grin:
That is exactly what people do and expect it to be a superdeck !! Then 6 months later after their "circumstances" have changed, they sell it. The £7K ones I do never ever come up for sale though.................. |
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Post by Slinger on Dec 31, 2015 14:06:04 GMT
"So," the penguin said to the vicar, "unless the thread's locked it's going to look like a really weird collection of non sequiturs that people will just add to."
The vicar looked the penguin in the eye and replied "Non sequitur? Lord Darlington:(is) A man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing."
"Pink" said the penguin, and slowly faded into the jungle.
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