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Post by Greg on Nov 27, 2014 20:18:17 GMT
I have a pair of these which I acquired second hand and have just started using them with a new NVA AP10 P. For hygiene reasons, I have replaced the ear pads and the internal foam disc. The head strap cushion has been thoroughly washed. They have already been upgraded with the fitting of a Bottlehead signal cable. What do others think about keeping or removing the foam disc that sits directly between the ear and the diaphragm? Does removing it add some clarity/transparency to the sound or does it go too far in this respect?
What do you think?
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Post by Stratmangler on Nov 27, 2014 21:28:29 GMT
You need to give 'em a good thrashing first - 3 weeks should do it!  |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 27, 2014 21:35:51 GMT
Removing the foam disc in my Superlux headphones gave a small but worthwhile improvement in clarity.
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Post by tony on Nov 28, 2014 11:25:46 GMT
I run 650s without the foams, I regard it as similar to removing speaker grills. The criticisms levelled at 650s for being a bit dark are resolved with this simple reversible mod.
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Post by Greg on Nov 28, 2014 19:01:25 GMT
Thank you. I realised it would be a case of suck and see for myself anyway, but just wanted the opinions of others |
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Post by Greg on Nov 28, 2014 22:58:09 GMT
Removed the pads tonight and had a listen. Definitely the way forward. I had more clarity and detail revaluation. Certainly as Tony suggested, the sound is more balanced and not so dark. For me this has been a bigger improvement compared with removing speaker grills. It's a major improvement that I am now benefiting from. Many thanks for your suggestions, helping me on my new found headphone way |
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Post by Stratmangler on Nov 28, 2014 23:36:30 GMT
Keep on thrashing them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 2:34:57 GMT
A better cable can also help.
There is a seller on ebay called RedBandMusic who does cables for the HD650.
Apparently it's a good upgrade and does not cost a lot. I have this planned for next year.
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Post by Greg on Nov 29, 2014 11:37:09 GMT
Thanks, but see cable details in my first post.
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Post by tony on Nov 29, 2014 18:42:07 GMT
Wonky, any chance of a link to the cable.
I have long thought about upgrading my cable but there is a bamboozling aray at some eye watering prices. I run a grado extension that lets me use the cans in the front room to listen to movies but recently rejigged my music set up letting me take the extension out- to my surprise the original cable sounds better. I really need about 5m in length so the after market ones can really get a bit salty money wise.
I might pester Brian to make me something up with Klotz cable and report my findings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 12:38:33 GMT
Tony,
Here is the guy who is making my cable - link I actually went for Cardas plugs both ends.
Here is the cable used - link |
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Post by tony on Nov 30, 2014 16:01:49 GMT
Thanks Kev....I will message him regards a 5m run with the cardas option and see if Santa will bankroll it!!!
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Post by tony on Dec 11, 2014 0:00:24 GMT
I have went for a 5m klotz/neutrik/cardas.....look forward to trying it in comparison to the standard cable/grado extension.
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Post by John on Dec 11, 2014 6:50:48 GMT
Should be a upgrade I did years ago and made a big difference in SQ
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Post by brian2957 on Dec 11, 2014 17:08:40 GMT
I've just started getting into the world of headphones and the 650s are on my radar . Please keep us posted on this cable upgrade guys .
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Post by tony on Dec 19, 2014 17:45:55 GMT
received my cable today for the 650s. Improves on the bass but is noticeably less congested in the mids without adding any treble nasties. Very good pound for pound upgrade.
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Post by John on Dec 19, 2014 18:35:01 GMT
Cool result
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 18:35:15 GMT
received my cable today for the 650s. Improves on the bass but is noticeably less congested in the mids without adding any treble nasties. Very good pound for pound upgrade. I totally agree! |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 19, 2014 19:30:36 GMT
received my cable today for the 650s Did you have to solder it in or is there a connector at the headphone end, Tony? |
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Post by John on Dec 19, 2014 19:46:31 GMT
It has a connector easy to change leads on the 650 and 600
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