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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 15:57:24 GMT
Hello everybody - I wondered if anybody can help?
I have an awia PX-E850 record player and recently bought a secondhand amp off eBay, an awia XA-003. I have no idea if these are compatible, which may be my problem.
I also bought some TIBO Edge 200 loud speakers.
When I try and play vinyl through all of the above the sound is really poor; distorted and bass heaving, despite having the bass turned right down on the amp.
I'm not sure if I'm plugging the speakers in correctly on the amp - it has eight connections - two A R and L and two B R and L. i have no idea which the correct combination is to to plug in the speakers, but it seems I get sound out of both when the speakers are plugged in to the two right A and B ports - rather strangely!
So I'm assuming either the secondhand amp is faulty or it is too powerful for the speakers? The speakers are Long term power 60 watt and short term 100 watt and are brand new, so I'm assuming they work ok.
I'm a complete novice when it comes to this sort of thing, but just want to listen to my records! Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 17:28:55 GMT
Hi,
Welcome to TAS.
I'll do you a deal - if I reply to your question, will you do a little TAS housekeeping and start a thread in the Welcome section, to make a formal hello the the other folks here?
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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 17:32:54 GMT
Of course Chris - thanks.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 30, 2014 17:41:53 GMT
I have an awia PX-E850 record player and recently bought a secondhand amp off eBay, an awia XA-003. I have no idea if these are compatible, which may be my problem. When I try and play vinyl through all of the above the sound is really poor; distorted and bass heaving, despite having the bass turned right down on the amp. Hi native
Please do as Chris asks so that we can get to know you a little.
Ok, something is seriously amiss if you have to turn the bass tone control right down. Firstly, let's eliminate what works. Does the amp/speaker combo perform correctly if you play another source, for instance CD or iPod or anything else connected in? No need to turn the bass down?
If so, then the finger of suspicion turns to the turntable and its connection. What type of cartridge does it have? How are you connecting the turntable to the amp? Is there a dedicated Phono input? I note from the user manual that there is an 'Equalizer' switch on the turntable, which is unusual. Turn it to Off if you are using the Phono input, but On if you are using a line level input like CD or Aux (make sure the volume is turned right down when doing this).
Give us some more info and we'll try and help you further.
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 17:45:45 GMT
Just to help folks understand what you're talking about, here are some images of the front and back of your amp.   Fundamentals first. What sort of condition is the cartridge on the turntable in? You don't want to use it if it's going to damage your records. Presumably, you're plugging the turntable arm cable connectors into the inputs marked 'Phono' on the back of the amp? Have you attached an earth wire to the binding post above (marked 'Signal Earth')? Speaker cable connections in my next post! |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 17:57:18 GMT
Speaker cables.
The speaker cables attach to either the top row of four connectors or the bottom four - A or B. I don't know how your cables are marked but usually one half of each will have a black (sometimes white) coloured identifier on it, or on the plugs if they have them. Alternatively, it may have a + or - symbol. Red is + and black or white is -.
Let's use the top row of speaker sockets - These are connected to the 'Speakers A' setting on the front of the amp.
As we look at the photo of the back of your amp, the LEFT hand pair of the top row of speaker sockets goes to the RIGHT hand speaker. Sounds odd, but they'll be on the appropriate sides when looking from the front.
I can't find an image of the back of your speakers. Do they have two or four sockets on the back? If there are four, are they connected by either bits of wire or metal pins or bars?
If not, then this may be your problem - you might only be connected to the bass drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 18:01:44 GMT
It has a built in phono stage (equaliser) which must be switched on hence giving the results noted by the OP. Turn it off and all should be well.
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 18:11:05 GMT
Gosh - the turntable! So it has.
The switch is in the front, centre of your turntable's platter - marked 'Equaliser Amp'. Switch it to the off position (right).
Well spotted Jez!
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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 18:36:42 GMT
Hi - Martin - I don't have anything else I can connect to it unfortunately. I can't see an 'equaliser switch on the turntable? I have it plugged in to the red/white ports on the Phono input.
One thing I have noticed is that when the turntable is plugged in and I turn the amp up to 3 (1-10) you get a sound like the ocean coming through the speakers. But when the turntable isn't connected to the amp, the speakers don't make this sound when turned all the way up? Sounds like it could be the turntable?
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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 18:38:49 GMT
It has a built in phono stage (equaliser) which must be switched on hence giving the results noted by the OP. Turn it off and all should be well. I can't see this? |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 18:46:00 GMT
I described the position of it wrongly, sorry. I think it's under the platter at the 12 o'clock position. Remove the mat and you'll see there are finger lift holes in the platter. Rotate it so one of them is at 12 o'clock and peer through the hole - I think you'll see a little switch. Take a look here. |
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Post by John on Oct 30, 2014 18:47:24 GMT
Or connect straight through the CD/AUX if you cannot switch off
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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 18:48:25 GMT
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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 18:51:22 GMT
I described the position of it wrongly, sorry. I think it's under the platter at the 12 o'clock position. Remove the mat and you'll see there are finger lift holes in the platter. Rotate it so one of them is at 12 o'clock and peer through the hole - I think you'll see a little switch. Take a look here.Bingo!! It works when I switch this off! Thank you so much! Much appreciated. |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 18:53:25 GMT
Excellent!
Your speaker connection looks OK (well, the one I can see does!)
Disregard what I said about the 4 sockets on your speakers - I just found out that they only have 2.
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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 18:55:02 GMT
Thanks to everyone!
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 19:04:51 GMT
So what are you going to play first? I'd go for Neil Young from your list of preferred music!
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Post by native on Oct 30, 2014 19:09:04 GMT
Just playing Radiohead's 'In Rainbows' album as I bought it today. Sounds great - really impressed with the speakers to say they were low end of the price range.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 30, 2014 19:57:48 GMT
<cough> Pretty sure I mentioned the Equalizer switch first?  Well done for a good fix! |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 30, 2014 20:43:44 GMT
....ahem...so you did!
You posted while I was typing.
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