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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 23, 2023 9:57:30 GMT
The Quartz Acoustic Premium box delivers such good results I took a punt on the Triple Aces
There is quite a price difference but Jordan has delivered what he said with the Premium so ...
Arrived a few days ago. I left it to settle and wait for a time when the boss was out, last night
I have Premium boxes in various places and decided to try each easily reachable one against the Triple
Listen with Premium in place
Swap to Triple Aces, listen again
Test track : Bent - Swollen from Best of Bent. Just happened to be next in line on the album playlist.
Useful as listening to it once then again with the Premium plugged in I realised how much there was going on.
I love the track. Never used it to test with before.
Female vocal, bass line to follow, piano and more
Sounded magnificent as it always does.
Swapped Premium out of the mains of the lighting circuit in the music room. Yes, separate circuit to the one the system is plugged into
Immediately it was so much 'louder'. That can't be, yes it is, no it isn't, he's behind you etc.
Later on there is more detail, back ground coming forward, more bass grunt
Change of plan due to 'volume'
Swap the Triple back to the Premium
Oh. 'Volume' is the same but the sound is slightly muffled in comparison.
Swap back to the Triple
Still sounds 'louder' but now I know I am a confused Bunny.
Dynamic range one suspects
Premium back into place on the lighting circuit
Next up the mains plug behind me, opposite side of the room to the system but on the same circuit.
More of the same, subtly better with the Triple in the mains circuit
Next test a socket right next to the system
More of the same and subtly better than previous test sockets
Listening to the full album is giving me more than before
More music, 'nicer'
Could be a while before this all settles and it occurs to me that fiddling about could be giving some improvements
More in a few days
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Post by MartinT on Jun 23, 2023 10:02:30 GMT
It sounds rather like the changes I made going from cheaper grounding boxes to Premiums.
Better focus, less harshness, bigger soundstage.
If the Triple Aces is better again then good for you. I may try one eventually but my pennies are reserved for the forthcoming EtherREGEN Gen2.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 23, 2023 10:33:22 GMT
Very much like the change from the Premiums but slightly different
The boss was available so I enrolled her for a rare listening test
Gerry Rafferty - I see red
Listen with Premium, swap, listen with Triple
Her comments
Clearer, more space between notes, quite noticeable improvement
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 26, 2023 11:30:57 GMT
What is the new box connected to now Mike?
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Post by MartinT on Jun 26, 2023 11:52:08 GMT
This could be one for my DAC at some future point, as that is the most effective place for noise reduction.
I can't absorb that cost at the moment, so it's on my future list.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 26, 2023 12:49:17 GMT
What is the new box connected to now Mike? Left it plugged into the mains socket next to the system. Sounding very good |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 27, 2023 10:50:31 GMT
Blissfully going through the album playlist and hearing more detail, background brought forward, detail clearer
Could be my imagination, and I'm leaving A - B comparisons for a while yet - but this could be a bit special
4 days since plugging in. I think it is getting better
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Post by mattspl on Feb 18, 2024 11:13:57 GMT
Blissfully going through the album playlist and hearing more detail, background brought forward, detail clearer Could be my imagination, and I'm leaving A - B comparisons for a while yet - but this could be a bit special 4 days since plugging in. I think it is getting better Hi Mike, How are you getting on with the Grounding boxes? I’m back reading here and on Head-fi and think it’s my next logical upgrade, along with some room treatments. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 18, 2024 15:45:29 GMT
Blissfully going through the album playlist and hearing more detail, background brought forward, detail clearer Could be my imagination, and I'm leaving A - B comparisons for a while yet - but this could be a bit special 4 days since plugging in. I think it is getting better Hi Mike, How are you getting on with the Grounding boxes? I’m back reading here and on Head-fi and think it’s my next logical upgrade, along with some room treatments. Hi Matt Just left them all in place as I focussed on streaming and the interesting 'features' I found Will find a time to compare and contrast They have all been in place for a long time now so no settling left |
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Post by mattspl on Feb 18, 2024 20:23:51 GMT
Hi Mike, How are you getting on with the Grounding boxes? I’m back reading here and on Head-fi and think it’s my next logical upgrade, along with some room treatments. Hi Matt Just left them all in place as I focussed on streaming and the interesting 'features' I found Will find a time to compare and contrast They have all been in place for a long time now so no settling left I know the feeling, once something is in the system and sounds good, there’s no taking it back out. Do you have any grounding boxes attached to the streamer or parts of that setup like the router at all? I think I’ll be doing the Dac first. |
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Post by orange55 on Feb 18, 2024 20:37:26 GMT
mattspl. When I added my grounding boxes I followed MartinT advice and started at the DAC and then worked back towards the router. In my system the DAC/Processor gave really good results, as did the next items in the chain which were, network switch, Melco server (which also passes all internet traffic through it and filters. ) I have one on the router, but recently I experimented by moving it from the usb input on the router to a plug into the Isotek Evo3 2 way conditioner that my router plxir power supply is plugged into. This gave a much greater impact than going into the router itself. While this is great for now, I do need to get some more grounding boxes now. I currently have four, but the quartz audio 4 way box is on the list and then I will redeploy my current ones.
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Post by mattspl on Feb 18, 2024 21:06:26 GMT
mattspl. When I added my grounding boxes I followed MartinT advice and started at the DAC and then worked back towards the router. In my system the DAC/Processor gave really good results, as did the next items in the chain which were, network switch, Melco server (which also passes all internet traffic through it and filters. ) I have one on the router, but recently I experimented by moving it from the usb input on the router to a plug into the Isotek Evo3 2 way conditioner that my router plxir power supply is plugged into. This gave a much greater impact than going into the router itself. While this is great for now, I do need to get some more grounding boxes now. I currently have four, but the quartz audio 4 way box is on the list and then I will redeploy my current ones. Thanks for the info, that really does sound worth trying. I’ve not read any negative reviews/comments about grounding boxes. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 18, 2024 21:09:55 GMT
Hi Matt Just left them all in place as I focussed on streaming and the interesting 'features' I found Will find a time to compare and contrast They have all been in place for a long time now so no settling left I know the feeling, once something is in the system and sounds good, there’s no taking it back out. Do you have any grounding boxes attached to the streamer or parts of that setup like the router at all? I think I’ll be doing the Dac first. I started in a different place Coherent RTZ grounding box connecting multiple cables from empty sockets on the TAD D-1000 and TAD M2500 Didn't have a streamer. Router was in a different room Connected Quartz Acoustic Premium and Silent Point grounding boxes to mains sockets and earth block coming into the house Then bought the Rendu That currently has the Triple Aces on it. |
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Post by MartinT on Feb 18, 2024 22:56:07 GMT
I have a Quartz Acoustic grounding box on each digital component from router to DAC and one on each regenerator. They all work well and add up to a significant effect. I then have a big Silent Point and a few others on mains duty. Brilliant devices in a digital system where absorbing noise is vital.
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Post by mattspl on Feb 19, 2024 9:20:52 GMT
Is putting multiple grounding boxes onto 1 component worth doing? Say 1 per left and right RCA analog out on the Dac and 1 on the spare coax or AES output on the Dac?
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 19, 2024 9:50:47 GMT
Good question
I have 3 on the earth block and they each improved the sound
Must try on kit
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Post by petea on Feb 19, 2024 9:57:02 GMT
Is putting multiple grounding boxes onto 1 component worth doing? Say 1 per left and right RCA analog out on the Dac and 1 on the spare coax or AES output on the Dac? If I recall correctly, Tony advised against that. |
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Post by MartinT on Feb 19, 2024 11:53:49 GMT
Is putting multiple grounding boxes onto 1 component worth doing? Say 1 per left and right RCA analog out on the Dac and 1 on the spare coax or AES output on the Dac? Per component I found was a bad idea. The effect doesn't double-up as you might expect. On the mains, put as many as you like distributed around the house. |
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Post by petea on Feb 19, 2024 12:19:34 GMT
This is the comment I was thinking of. To be honest I can hear no impact of the BR boxes on the subs at all, neither positive nor negative. Saves storing them in a drawer though!  theaudiostandard.net/post/244640/thread |
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Post by MartinT on Feb 19, 2024 12:50:55 GMT
The things I learned with grounding boxes by trial and error are:
- don't use more than one per component
- don't use with clocks
- don't bother with power amp and speakers
- use several around the house for mains power
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