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Post by ant on Jun 19, 2023 18:14:36 GMT
Albon knows how to play to that williams strengths, great albon special drive from him. That williams is an absolute missile in a straight line, but cant go round corners. If they can get it to turn left and right it could sneak up on mclaren by the years end. Apparently mclaren have a set of big upgrades coming over 3 races that will make it a competitive car but ill believe that when i see it. There was actually a heck of a lot going on in that race, ferrari didnt balls up their strategy for once, perez did not really turn up for some reason. short low speed corners are the only place that other cars come close to the rb19s, the astons probably match the rb in that one area which is probably why verstappen didnt bugger off completely. I was very impressed with verstappen alonso and hamilton, none of them put a foot wrong while their teammates floundered. Without lifting and coasting i think alonso could have given verstappen a bit of pause for thought, but there is performance in hand for verstappen so he would still have won. Just might have had to concentrate for a bit. russell was abit unlucky to bend the w14b, hit the inside kerb at a funny angle attempting to get back on terms with alonso. Showed how much he was pushing to try to keep the top 3 in sight. Merc definitely have the best driver pairing on the grid More merc upgrades apparently scheduled for silverstone. It would be great to see hamilton (or russell) giving verstappen something to worry about there. Heres hoping. the merc might be crap in austria in 2 weeks time, if its good there we might be able to say the b spec car works
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Post by orange55 on Jul 2, 2023 7:09:58 GMT
Personally I have now checked out of the sprint races. I use to like the extra racing when they first started. But now, this year, they kind of take the shine off the actual races.
I did not watch yesterdays, as they pretty much replicate what will happen in the race in terms of performance. I don’t want a ‘preview’ of how the race might pan out, I like the unknown going into the race without thinking ‘ I know from the sprint where people might end up’.
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Post by ant on Jul 2, 2023 16:41:11 GMT
Got quite bored with this race weekend, track limits penalties everywhere in all sessions and both races, foregone conclusion as to who would win. Highlights, not many. Leclerc pole lap attempt was a great effort, sainz defending from perez. Not sure there were any more really Utterly forgettable Again Please let silverstone at least be reasonable
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Post by Clive on Jul 2, 2023 18:24:45 GMT
1,200 track limits violations to be checked….results to be modified. Crazy.
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Post by ant on Jul 2, 2023 20:30:32 GMT
Sainz and hamilton penalised further, ocon got 30 seconds added and another 5 drivers done. Ludicrous situation
Their tough luck, should've abided by the track limits
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2023 21:30:01 GMT
It's a charade changing the final result like that. Put gravel traps in if there are going to be that many violations.
Sainz was excellent, unlucky not to get a podium.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 2, 2023 21:58:51 GMT
Remember when F1 used to be about cars and drivers? I used to love it then. You couldn't pay me to watch it now.
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Post by ant on Jul 3, 2023 6:37:30 GMT
It was an absolute shitshow in 15 and 16 when the hybrid era started but i dont remember it being this bad, its a waste of time watching lately. Just seems that f1 keeps shooting itself in the foot at least once a race. If its not utter boredom its questionable stewarding, if not that its a dumb sprint race if not that its farcical penalties, if its not that its the print media asking a loaded question to a driver then wails of hypocrisy at the answer. At least ben stokes made the cricket abit more interesting than usual. Should start watching that instead Its abit bad when you have watched a sport since 1987 and its become simply habit to spend sundays with the radio on rather than looking forward to a race, a chore to tune in, and an utter refusal to pay for tv coverage of it on principle. Cant even get the sports official tv coverage, which might actually be nice to have because of sky
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Post by MartinT on Jul 3, 2023 8:54:14 GMT
At least ben stokes made the cricket abit more interesting than usual. Should start watching that instead Umm, F1 may be in a bit of a slump at the moment, not helped by a totally dominant car in the lead, but I would have to give up on life completely before I would ever watch cricket.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 22, 2023 18:39:24 GMT
Hamilton on pole! It's been a long time since we last said that. Also great positions for the two McLarens in 3rd and 4th and an absolute stunner for Zhou in 5th. Why are the Red Bulls not showing their usual superiority on the twisty Hungaroring? Lack of DRS advantage? What has happened to Ferrari? Russell is the real loser here, down in 18th.
Qualifying Times 1 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes 1:16.609 2 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull Racing +0.003 3 Lando NORRIS McLaren +0.085 4 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren +0.296 5 Guanyu ZHOU Alfa Romeo +0.362 6 Charles LECLERC Ferrari +0.383 7 Valtteri BOTTAS Alfa Romeo +0.425 6 8 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin +0.426 9 Sergio PEREZ Red Bull Racing +0.436 10 Nico HULKENBERG Haas F1 Team +0.577 11 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari 1:17.703 12 Esteban OCON Alpine 1:17.841 13 Daniel RICCIARDO AlphaTauri 1:18.002 14 Lance STROLL Aston Martin 1:18.144 15 Pierre GASLY Alpine 1:18.217 16 Alexander ALBON William 1:18.917 17 Yuki TSUNODA AlphaTauri 1:18.929 18 George RUSSELL Mercedes 1:19.081 19 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas F1 Team 1:19.206 20 Logan SARGEANT Williams 1:19.248
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Post by topalwaysdown on Jul 23, 2023 16:06:52 GMT
Normal service resumed in the race.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 23, 2023 16:33:18 GMT
Normal service resumed in the race. Sadly yes, although the Mercedes are slowly catching the McLarens and the Astons are falling away, as are the Ferraris. Norris staying ahead of Perez was good to watch while Hamilton not quite catching Perez was exciting. Ricciardo did well to recover his starting position all things considered, and still outperformed Tsunoda. Albon continues to outdrive his car. Result 1 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull Racing 2 Lando NORRIS McLaren +33.731 3 Sergio PEREZ Red Bull Racing +37.603 4 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes +39.134 5 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren +62.572 6 George RUSSELL Mercedes +65.825 7 Charles LECLERC Ferrari +70.317 8 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari +71.073 9 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin +75.709 10 Lance STROLL Aston Martin +1 lap 11 Alexander ALBON Williams +1 lap 12 Valtteri BOTTAS Alfa Romeo +1 lap 13 Daniel RICCIARDO AlphaTauri +1 lap 14 Nico HULKENBERG Haas F1 Team +1 lap 15 Yuki TSUNODA AlphaTauri +1 lap 16 Guanyu ZHOU Alfa Romeo +1 lap 17 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas F1 Team +1 lap
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Post by ant on Jul 24, 2023 16:30:18 GMT
Spa this weekend for the next disappointment
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Post by MartinT on Jul 24, 2023 18:11:47 GMT
...except their stunning speed through Eau Rouge.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 27, 2023 17:05:16 GMT
The race had so many changes due to heavy rain that it's easier just to post the highlights.
Race classification: 2023 Dutch Grand Prix 1 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull 2:24:04.411 72 laps 6 stops 2 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin +3.744 5 stops 3 Pierre GASLY Alpine +7.058 5 stops 4 Sergio PEREZ Red Bull +10.068 6 stops 5 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari +12.541 5 stops 6 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes +13.209 5 stops 7 Lando NORRIS McLaren +13.232 6 stops 8 Alexander ALBON Williams +15.155 4 stops 9 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren +16.580 5 stops 10 Esteban OCON Alpine +18.346 6 stops 11 Lance STROLL Aston Martin +20.087 7 stops 12 Nico HULKENBERG Haas +20.840 5 stops 13 Liam LAWSON AlphaTauri +26.147 7 stops 14 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas +26.410 6 stops 15 Valtteri BOTTAS Alfa Romeo +27.388 5 stops 16 Yuki TSUNODA AlphaTauri +29.893 5 stops 17 George RUSSELL Mercedes +55.754 7 stops 18 Guanyu ZHOU Alfa Romeo DNF, crash 19 Charles LECLERC Ferrari DNF, floor damage 20 Logan SARGEANT Williams DNF, crash
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Post by MartinT on Sept 21, 2023 16:40:41 GMT
We never wrote about the Singapore GP and the absolutely astounding control of the whole race by Carlos Sainz. The best way of appreciating it is to listen to his calm radio messages throughout. Smooth operator indeed, I'm so pleased for him!
Standings: 2023 Singapore Grand Prix 1 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari 1:46:37.418 2 Lando NORRIS McLaren +0.812 3 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes+1.269 4 Charles LECLERC Ferrari +21.177 5 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull Racing +21.441 6 Pierre GASLY Alpine +38.441 7 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren +41.479 8 Sergio PEREZ Red Bull Racing +54.534 9 Liam LAWSON AlphaTauri +65.918 10 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas F1 Team +72.116 11 Alexander ALBON Williams +73.417 12 Guanyu ZHOU Alfa Romeo +83.649 13 Nico HULKENBERG Haas F1 Team +86.201 14 Logan SARGEANT Williams +86.889 15 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin +87.603
Did not finish George Russell Mercedes lap 62 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo Esteban Ocon Alpine lap 43 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri lap 1
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Post by MartinT on Sept 24, 2023 15:35:17 GMT
Well, that's it for another season, Red Bull (more specifically, Adrian Newey) were in a class of their own for car design and it showed everywhere bar Singapore. Verstappen did it almost single-handedly as Perez barely made an appearance in the latter races. I like how Hamilton got his elbows out and showed Russell who is boss. The Ferrari is probably the best improved car and the Aston the one that went backwards the most. Albon continues to impress in the Williams as does Piastri in the McLaren.
Result 1 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull Racing 1:30:58.421 53 laps 2 Lando NORRIS McLaren +19.387 3 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren +36.494 4 Charles LECLERC Ferrari +43.998 5 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes +49.376 6 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari +50.221 7 George RUSSELL Mercedes +57.659 8 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin +74.725 9 Esteban OCON Alpine +79.678 10 Pierre GASLY Alpine +83.155 11 Liam LAWSON AlphaTauri +1 lap 12 Yuki TSUNODA AlphaTauri +1 lap 13 Guanyu ZHOU Alfa Romeo +1 lap 14 Nico HULKENBERG Haas F1 Team +1 lap 15 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas F1 Team +1 lap
Did not finish Alex Albon Williams – crash damage Logan Sargeant Williams – crash damage Lance Stroll Aston Martin – rear-wing failure Sergio Perez Red Bull – crash damage Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo – crash damage
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 24, 2023 16:13:34 GMT
Adrian Newey !
Still at it after all these years
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Post by Slinger on Oct 9, 2023 12:58:51 GMT
This is a Tweet from Jim Boardman, a sports journalist.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 9, 2023 14:15:33 GMT
The race was declared as a mandatory three-stop because of concerns about the tyres in the heat.
No declaration was made on behalf of the drivers in the heat.
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