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Post by John on Feb 15, 2023 14:47:43 GMT
I have been chatting with someone who has bought the clock for a X26 I am happy to report that the person likes the new level of clarity the clock brings. Giving a more natural sound. So worth a try for those who want a cheap way into clocks and have a X26
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Post by atoz on Feb 15, 2023 16:22:38 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Feb 15, 2023 17:46:32 GMT
If the LMR-400 UF is like the LMR-400, it will get better with 150+ hours of burn-in. Just leave the clock running.
The X26 Pro benefits greatly from an external clock (even more with a U18 too) and the LMR is no slouch. I don't doubt it sounds good and should improve some more.
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Post by atoz on Feb 15, 2023 17:51:49 GMT
Cheers Martin. Because of your post about the LMR400, I thought I couldn't go wrong. I think the UF version I purchase has "Less loss"than the stiffer version you bought.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Feb 15, 2023 19:22:28 GMT
Great news...and welcome to TAS
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Post by atoz on Feb 15, 2023 19:32:26 GMT
Cheers,been here for a while, lurking in the background.
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Post by Clive on Feb 17, 2023 17:48:04 GMT
I have a 0.2m LMR-400 cable for my LB clock, it’s only been running for around 30 hours. Compared to 0.5m RG58 with LMR I get better clarity in the mid with a toned down bass. Overall the sound is considerably improved with the LMR, whether the bass is right (tight but reduced or is it just tight?), I’m not sure yet but I expect it needs more hours to bed in. The difference frankly is a little shocking. How do others find the LMR-400 develops as it burns in?
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Post by Clive on Feb 17, 2023 18:03:03 GMT
Hi, yes I added the LB and this cable to my X26PRO this morning. Bought 0.5m , as you see on link its the LMR400 UF version I purchased (ultra flexible) I was able to get a nice curve from clock to dac with the UF version of the LMR400. As I told John from the few hrs of listening, I can find a lift in clarity and a more overall engagement with the sound from the left and right speakers and vocals. Fine detail are more pronounced and bass seems to be tighter and fuller. Even listening at lower volume, it's all there. I am using a LPS which I had bought for The SEG dac I had, lucky enough LPS had a viable control inside, so I tuned it down to output 8 vdc. Not very good at describing the sound I am hearing but as I said to John.. it's a big up lift in sound output...clean/detailed and and smooth,..will it get better with cable burn in? Good for me if it does but I won't complain if it doesn't. How flexible is the UF version? Is it similar RG58 or halfway to the very stiff standard LMR-400? edit: I’ve just spotted the bend radius specs so this gives me a good idea of bendability.
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Post by John on Feb 17, 2023 18:26:35 GMT
You can bend
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Post by HD Music & Test on Feb 17, 2023 18:32:17 GMT
Said Mr Beck to Mr Clapped out
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Post by HD Music & Test on Feb 17, 2023 18:33:47 GMT
John pointed something out to me this afternoon so I will stick it here.
A comment from a gent after using a master clock.
"I gave it some thought and my analogy for the change since adding in the clock, is the competent amateur musicians have been replaced by the professionals"
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Post by atoz on Feb 17, 2023 18:51:40 GMT
Is it similar RG58 or halfway to the very stiff standard LMR-400?
edit: I’ve just spotted the bend radius specs so this gives me a good idea of bendability.[/quote]
Hi Clive, my LB is sitting beside my dac, so I have a "C" shape bend rather than a "U"shape with the 0.5m length I bought but I think you could go with the tighter bend. The UF has a rubber jacket, yours might have a stiffer plastic type. The UF is still a thick cable, prob the only difference to your LMR400, is the jacket.
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Post by Clive on Feb 17, 2023 19:10:40 GMT
Is it similar RG58 or halfway to the very stiff standard LMR-400? edit: I’ve just spotted the bend radius specs so this gives me a good idea of bendability. [quote/] Hi Clive, my LB is sitting beside my dac, so I have a "C" shape bend rather than a "U"shape with the 0.5m length I bought but I think you could go with the tighter bend. The UF has a rubber jacket, yours might have a stiffer plastic type. The UF is still a thick cable, prob the only difference to your LMR400, is the jacket. [/quote] Thanks for the detail. Due to having change where my kit sits on the rack I could do with 0.5m now so I might as well try the UF. What I need is a C shape too.
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Post by Clive on Feb 17, 2023 19:17:45 GMT
John pointed something out to me this afternoon so I will stick it here.
A comment from a gent after using a master clock.
"I gave it some thought and my analogy for the change since adding in the clock, is the competent amateur musicians have been replaced by the professionals"
That is a good analogy. I’ll try Mozart’s A Musical Joke to see whether the musicians improve 😀 A change of cable from RG58 to LMR-400 brings considerable additional talent to musicians too.
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Post by Clive on Feb 19, 2023 18:02:23 GMT
I wanted to post an update on my LMR-400 cable burn-in with my LB clock The slight concern I had about the amount of bass has now evaporated with more hours of the clock and DAC being powered up. Having tried a few cables and I’ll be trying more, I must say that the cable between clock and DAC is the single most critical cable in my system. It’s sounding even more amazing!
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Post by John on Feb 19, 2023 18:06:21 GMT
I think some of this must be system dependent Using Martin new cable it had more bass and detail but just a bit to forward in the context of my system. I am sure a different experience in Martin system.
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Post by John on Mar 3, 2023 20:23:01 GMT
I had a friend make me a couple of clock cables and now see where Clive is coming from The red were too forward in my system but the blue cable I could easily start to gush about. Did not think my system was capable of more from a tiny cable well I was wrong
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Post by John on Mar 3, 2023 20:24:36 GMT
The Leo Bodnar has to be the best audio bargain I have bought The clock that keeps on giving
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 3, 2023 21:27:48 GMT
I had a friend make me a couple of clock cables and now see where Clive is coming from The red were too forward in my system but the blue cable I could easily start to gush about. Did not think my system was capable of more from a tiny cable well I was wrong Feel free to spill the beans John
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Post by Clive on Mar 3, 2023 22:39:23 GMT
It’s not surprising that the clock cable exerts such influence….the clock is the beating heart of a digital source/system. Anything that influences this heartbeat is bound to be critical. The worry is that a short cable can be so critical, maybe it’s a lot to ask for a clock signal generated externally and then to be transported to the DAC without corruption. What if we could hard wire the LB inside the DAC?
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