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Post by daytona600 on Sept 17, 2014 12:13:01 GMT
Isolation & Vibration needs to me drained out of the speakers My speakers float on ball bearings & wobble So, if they wobble, they probably move in accordance with the cone excursion of the drive units when music is played. Surely that is not conducive to good sound reproduction? Not a new idea Symposium invented this almost 20 years now for speakers & components |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 17, 2014 14:43:53 GMT
Nothing new under the Sun eh ?  |
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Post by Greg on Sept 17, 2014 19:04:27 GMT
So, if they wobble, they probably move in accordance with the cone excursion of the drive units when music is played. Surely that is not conducive to good sound reproduction? Not a new idea Symposium invented this almost 20 years now for speakers & components This is interesting, but you have not supplied any information to help with this. I can understand how wobbly mounts might work under source components and amplifiers etc, but can't recognise how it would be good for speakers. Surely the speaker caninet/panel needs to be rigid to allow the inertia of the speaker cones to operate correctly? If you consider 'wobble' is OK, please can you link me to some information or study paper that will illuminate me? Is this the same principle that Origin Live are now using with their barrel speakers hung from swinging strings, or even Townsend selling bouncy supports for speakers? Thanks, Greg |
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Post by daytona600 on Sept 18, 2014 16:15:03 GMT
Not a new idea Symposium invented this almost 20 years now for speakers & components This is interesting, but you have not supplied any information to help with this. I can understand how wobbly mounts might work under source components and amplifiers etc, but can't recognise how it would be good for speakers. Surely the speaker caninet/panel needs to be rigid to allow the inertia of the speaker cones to operate correctly? If you consider 'wobble' is OK, please can you link me to some information or study paper that will illuminate me? Is this the same principle that Origin Live are now using with their barrel speakers hung from swinging strings, or even Townsend selling bouncy supports for speakers? www.symposiumusa.com/tech5.htmlwww.symposiumusa.com/tech3.htmlwww.symposiumusa.com/tech2.htmlThanks, Greg |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 18, 2014 17:11:09 GMT
Thanks. Even more layers peeled back to tell us what is going on
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Post by Greg on Sept 20, 2014 20:44:10 GMT
Daytona600, Thanks for the links which I've read and digested. Unfortunately they do not contain any proof of anything or relate to convincing research. Furthermore, they make absolutely no reference to wobbly speaker supports. They certainly advocate their constrained layer damped 'Svelte Shelf' for fitting under speakers. However, there is no wobble with them. They are simply a manufactured product that can easily be replicated and probably improved by using a couple of slabs of Slate which posess naturally occurring CLD. The icing on the cake is the photograph of the Svelte Shelves being fitted under speakers direct to carpet  Sorry, there is nothing convincing or worthwhile here. Basically the linked articles are advertising, unsupported by science and boardering on snake oil. Referring back to Paul's use of billiard balls for speaker support, they are layed on a carpet so they don't move around. That is not a wobbly support. It is just a variation on rigidity. I'll stick with my spiked speakers, mounted into the top of cross head screws into my suspended wood floor. Over the years, my ears have told me this, for me, is best. Greg |
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 21, 2014 11:04:57 GMT
I'll stick with my spiked speakers, mounted into the top of cross head screws into my suspended wood floor. Over the years, my ears have told me this, for me, is best. So your speakers are not coupled to the floor then! |
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Post by Greg on Sept 21, 2014 18:43:44 GMT
I'll stick with my spiked speakers, mounted into the top of cross head screws into my suspended wood floor. Over the years, my ears have told me this, for me, is best. So your speakers are not coupled to the floor then! Er, not sure what you are saying, Chris. My speakers are spiked. My floor is carpeted suspended wood. I have large cross head screws through the carpet into the wood floor. The speaker spikes sit in the cross on the head of the screws. That has worked best for me for a long time now. |
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 21, 2014 20:00:12 GMT
So your speakers are not coupled to the floor then! Er, not sure what you are saying, Chris. My speakers are spiked. My floor is carpeted suspended wood. I have large cross head screws through the carpet into the wood floor. The speaker spikes sit in the cross on the head of the screws. That has worked best for me for a long time now. If the spikes on the cabinet were pushed into the wooden floorboards your speakers would be coupled to the floor. They're not, as the spikes sit on top of screw heads - it's more akin to putting coins under the cabinet spikes. Your speakers are not coupled to the floor, as the junction between the screw heads and the points of the spikes is lossy. |
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