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Post by dvh on Aug 21, 2014 9:56:18 GMT
People find roy chubby brown funny . The point is all comedy as a target and a message . Bollocks. Take my children's favourite joke when they were nippers: 'What's blue, sits in the corner and hums? A fridge wearing denims'. What's the target there, and what's the message? |
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 21, 2014 9:59:46 GMT
That was a joke from Roy Chubby Brown ?
I saw that film and once or twice very briefly standup
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 10:02:41 GMT
People find roy chubby brown funny . The point is all comedy as a target and a message . Bollocks. Take my children's favourite joke when they were nippers: 'What's blue, sits in the corner and hums? A fridge wearing denims'. What's the target there, and what's the message? You conflate a children s joke with comedy . Why on earth would you do that to make a point . It would seem your desire to argue with me is greater than your desire to make a valid point . |
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Post by dvh on Aug 21, 2014 10:03:09 GMT
That was a joke from Roy Chubby Brown ? I saw that film and once or twice very briefly standup Er, no. That was a joke that my daughters liked when they were children. My point was that not all humour has either a target or a message. It's like Bob Dyan said when he was asked why his songs didn't have a message any more: 'If you want a message, go to Western Union'. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 10:06:02 GMT
Humour is not comedy . The first rule of comedy is have something to say .
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Post by dvh on Aug 21, 2014 10:06:25 GMT
Bollocks. Take my children's favourite joke when they were nippers: 'What's blue, sits in the corner and hums? A fridge wearing denims'. What's the target there, and what's the message? You conflate a children s joke with comedy . Why on earth would you do that to make a point . It would seem your desire to argue with me is greater than your desire to make a valid point . How would you go about distinguishing between a joke and comedy? Of course some comedy has a target and a message, but plenty doesn't, so in saying 'all comedy has a message and a target', you're taking nonsense. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 10:08:10 GMT
Alas , it is for you to list the exceptions as you disagree .
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Post by dvh on Aug 21, 2014 10:13:06 GMT
Humour is not comedy . The first rule of comedy is have something to say . The first rule of comedy is to make people laugh, and the words 'humour' and 'comedy' are interchangeable. From Wikipedia: 'Comedy (from the Greek: κωμῳδία, kōmōidía), in the contemporary meaning of the term, is any discourse or work generally intended to be humorous or to amuse by inducing laughter'. From the OED definition of 'comedy': 'A stage-play of a light and amusing character, with a happy conclusion to its plot.' ' Humour; humorous invention; the action or quality of being amusing'. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 10:15:07 GMT
You need to ask yourself why you are seeking to disagree and what does your disagreement do to the general point I made . So you may be able to point to exceptions ,say for instance the surreal comedy of reeves and mortimor or the one line word play of the american comedian whose name i have forgotten ,but so what , it doesn't undermine the general point .
you are disagreeing for the sake of it and you have no actual point to make . With respect , knobs do that .
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Post by dvh on Aug 21, 2014 10:18:20 GMT
You need to ask yourself why you are seeking to disagree and what does your disagreement do the general point I made . So you may be able to point to exceptions ,say for instance the surreal comedy of reeves and mortimor or the one line word play of the american comdiam whose name i have forgotten ,but so what , it doesnt undermine the general point . you are disagreeing for the sake of it and you have no actual point to make . With respect , knobs do that . With respect, you have lost the argument and have descended to insult. If you think the OED has the definition of the word 'comedy' wrong because it doesn't refer to a message or a target, write to them pointing out their error. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 10:20:21 GMT
What argument is it that you consider I have lost. cause i am struggling to find a valid one ? and for the record you insulted me first  if the arugment you consider you have won , is that i should of said the majority of comedy not all comedy , then woopy fuckin do , well done to you . |
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Post by dvh on Aug 21, 2014 10:23:10 GMT
What argument is it that you consider I have lost. cause i aint a clue ? and for the record you insulted me first The argument that 'all comedy has a target and a message', when it quite clearly doesn't, as you yourself have pointed out. And for the record my insult was aimed at your statement rather than at you. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 10:25:18 GMT
Apologies , I have edited my post whilst you were replying . It would seem i am correct vis-a-vis the pointless arguement you think you have won . Accordingly - woopy fuckin do , well done to you |
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Post by dvh on Aug 21, 2014 10:28:39 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 21, 2014 10:33:11 GMT
That was a joke from Roy Chubby Brown ? I saw that film and once or twice very briefly standup Er, no. That was a joke that my daughters liked when they were children. My point was that not all humour has either a target or a message. It's like Bob Dyan said when he was asked why his songs didn't have a message any more: 'If you want a message, go to Western Union'. That was fine Brown is not funny |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 12:09:53 GMT
Off topic, but for (what I found) a good comedic take on the PO sell-off, look no further: He's a real man of the people isn't he! Prep school and Peterhouse College Cambridge, Footlights and a career on Radio 4. Interesting to note that the Royal Mail Share price is currently 4.40 compared to a high of 6.18 and a flotation price of 3.30. Not saying it wasn't a cock-up, it clearly was, but hindsight is always 20-20. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 12:17:52 GMT
his background does not dilute his message ,that is a silly argument . Additionally hypocrisy does not negate the validity of ones argument just ask a murder who is against the death penalty .
And losenot , you know as well as i vis-a-vis the royal mail , it is not a question of hindsight , all the pre sale advise the government took told them it was selling it cheaply.
Its share price now is a reflection of its post privatization management .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 12:24:46 GMT
his background does not dilute his message ,that is a silly argument . Additionally hypocrisy does not negate the validity of ones argument just ask a murder who is against the death penalty . And losenot , you know as well as i vis-a-vis the royal mail , it is not a question of hindsight , all the pre sale advise the government took told them it was selling it cheaply. Its share price now is a reflection of its post privatization management . Are you saying that Cable knew it was being sold too cheaply and did it so that the City could fill their boots? If so, I don't agree. Your last sentence is so ignorant I can't even be bothered to debate it, I'm off to see some more comedy - Stewart Lee first today  |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 21, 2014 12:32:32 GMT
The advise given and read by Osborne and Cable is available for all to see. The price recommended was way above sale price . Cable made a political decision .
I would be interested to read what the current share price is a reflection of , though nice rhetorical side step you have employed , i am pretty sure Stauart Lee is above such rehtorical devices in argument .ENJOY .
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 21, 2014 12:35:11 GMT
Was there ever an initial offering that was too high or was it always fill your boots chums ?
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