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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 21, 2020 20:37:53 GMT
I don't recall ever - ever - seeing such a thread. But, that's not to say there hasn't been any, of course.
Simply whatever has some appeal for you.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 21, 2020 21:07:17 GMT
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 21, 2020 22:13:59 GMT
Intriguing, Paul.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 22, 2020 9:59:23 GMT
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Post by Slinger on Jul 22, 2020 17:26:57 GMT
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 23, 2020 15:50:22 GMT
Was intrigued, Paul. Had me thinking about why we like what we like, and the processing that's activated and comes up with what it is we choose to like. Anyway... I have a business proposition for you. For a mere £50,000 I'm willing to offer you a 5% - ok, as it's you, 10% - share in my DIY RFID 2 Finger Implant Technology. Total control of all your audio (and so much more) from the comfort of one's sofa - or wherever you happen to be. Just a few photos of celebrities (including The Queen & Ringo Starr) who now use my product. It's The Next Big Thing, Paul.     |
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Post by Slinger on Jul 23, 2020 16:10:31 GMT
Fortunately, though, we don't all like the same thing. Your business proposition intrigues me though. My cheque is in the post.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 23, 2020 16:12:18 GMT
Saw their name some years ago but never investigated.
Great drum capture on the first and last track of the first video. Might try using it for setting up speakers:
Lead guitarist started playing when she was 5 and has played with Ventures' members. Still just 22. Couldn't find anything recent for then:
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 23, 2020 16:14:11 GMT
Fortunately, though, we don't all like the same thing. Your business proposition intrigues me though. My cheque is in the post. Well, it would be a pretty dull world if we did. Looking forward to the cheque arriving. |
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 23, 2020 16:36:00 GMT
I listen on headphones, which gives you a clear sonic picture of what might be going on in a mix - hence the thread.
Here's Jimi flying about. Some great effects on his material:
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Post by Slinger on Jul 23, 2020 20:35:31 GMT
More spam email stories
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Post by Mr Whippy on Aug 13, 2020 19:48:02 GMT
3 official mixes of The Beatles' Nowhere Man:
No upload of the mono mix and the 2009 stereo cd version is different to the original stereo mix on vinyl. George's guitar solo stays put on the left and on the remaster it moves to the right. Doesn't seem to have the impact of the original vinyl version.
Anyway, the focus of this is the last version which is one of the tracks from The Beatles Rock Band Dreamscape video console game for the X Box and what-have-you. The original came out in 2009. I think it came out just before the remastered CDs, but I could be wrong.
For a time the tracks were uploaded as music tracks and I got to download some, and, I have to say, thought they sounded better than the remastered CDs. The mix of Nowhere Man shows what could have been done with the stereo remasters, and would have been an improvement, I think, not that the hard panning of left & right images is a problem to me, having grown up with them.
Sadly, the uploads have had their sound doctored, or include sound effects, which aren't too excessive on some. The studio animations are pretty neat.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 13, 2020 21:22:50 GMT
I like the mix on the X-Box game version, it's just a shame that the overall sound is pretty shite. I'm not sure whether that's caused by the remix itself, or just awful lo-fi sound reproduction. It's got a lot pf top end, and the bottom end sounds puddingy, to coin a phrase, or stodgy.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Aug 13, 2020 21:51:29 GMT
I like the video game mix best as well.
Shite/low-fi sounding? Really? I don't hear that. And it sounds reasonably balanced to my lugs. Or perhaps it's just me that settles for very little in the way of sound quality with my mobile and Tin Hi Fi T3 earphones, (as recommended by none other than Steve - I Am The Audiophiliac - Guttenburgh. Not that that was why I got them.) these days.
An experiment.
Perhaps you could link a video which to your ears is of exemplary sound quality. I'll see if I can hear that same quality of sound.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 13, 2020 22:12:56 GMT
I'll have a hunt around to see what I can find. I usually don't take a huge amount of notice of YouTube quality as I use it more as a "discovery" tool rather than a serious listening source.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Aug 14, 2020 0:12:20 GMT
It's all I use for music & old films.
Sound quality shit here as well?:
They all sound pretty good on what I'm using.
Obviously, there's a lot of stuff that sounds... "shite".
I'm just curious to see how shite-sounding varies from person to person. And what level of shite is one willing to accept?
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Post by MartinT on Aug 14, 2020 7:30:38 GMT
I usually don't take a huge amount of notice of YouTube quality as I use it more as a "discovery" tool rather than a serious listening source. Same here, I use YouTube for referencing stuff and watching live performances. Some material sounds good, a lot of it is poor due to the way it was captured/pirated. |
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Post by Mr Whippy on Aug 14, 2020 19:46:51 GMT
This is pretty good, and shows what can be done with DES (Digitally Extracted Stereo). See Emily Play is a bit disappointing in comparison:
Going back to the Nowhere Man mix. I can hear the deficiencies, but still struggling to hear it as low quality. Perhaps an example of how we don't all hear the same thing.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 14, 2020 21:13:38 GMT
Here's something I've enjoyed today, which I think is a decent recording for YouTube.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Aug 16, 2020 6:22:49 GMT
Aye. It sounds quite good. But I have to say, and being honest, I don't find listening to it, or any of the examples I showed - the Skunk Baxter item sounding particularly good - and then listen to the Nowhere Man item in comparison, and think that I'm listening to something really poor in sound quality. Perhaps it's just how I listen.
On YouTube you get these that do remasters and remixes. When The Beatles' remasters came out in 2009, everyone and their dog was at it. Some vere pretty creditable, and some were pretty dire, to be honest (perhaps I should find an example) and had me wondering why they bothered. Obviously, when they finished their effort they must have listened and thought to themselves that it sounded pretty good enough to want to upload it. So, we don't all hear the same.
The Pink Floyd item above is pretty good, well Arnold Layne is. See Emily Play is less successful, to my lugs. The image structure didn't do it for me, in particular. Still, just goes to show what can me done with a mono source these days.
Arnold Layne has been "improved" recently. Doesn't sound as good as the first effort to me. The lower end has some more grunt, but sounds a bit dead and loses a bit presence and space:
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