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Post by julesd68 on Feb 18, 2020 15:37:57 GMT
I was expecting to really dislike this. The surprise is I don’t dislike the music at all and I really like a lot of that dirty guitar sound, it’s most inventive and well played … I can hear for the first time how Eddie Van Halen et al would have been influenced by those heavy solos. It’s just all the guff that goes with it, I just don’t get at the moment and have always been put off exploring any FZ further because of it. The humour just does a massive by-pass for me but the music manages to hold my attention and the instrumental sections like in Inca Road and elsewhere are excellent; of course I prefer the heavier bits but will go 3/5. Hmm - might even listen again!
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Post by Slinger on Feb 18, 2020 17:45:38 GMT
A most enjoyable walk down memory lane for me. I was not put off in the slightest by the vocals, but then again I knew what to expect. I may have to take a look at what I've got of his and give it a bit of a play. It may well involve THIS box set which I won in a contest set by Jammy over at HFS yonks ago. As for marks, 4/ 5 mostly because there is better Zappa out there, so it can't be a 5. Excellent choice, thanks Chris.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 18, 2020 18:03:36 GMT
OK Paul, I'll bite, what would a better album be for you?
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Post by Slinger on Feb 18, 2020 18:25:19 GMT
OK Paul, I'll bite, what would a better album be for you? My favourite is probably "Hot Rats," Jules, especially as it has my favourite Zappa track, Peaches En Regalia on it. Cruising With Reuben And The Jets is fun. Broadway The Hard Way is good fun too and the opening track "Elvis Has Just Left The Building" is wonderfully irreverent.
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Post by John on Feb 18, 2020 19:43:36 GMT
A 3 for me when good I really like it but it also is self-indulgent at times. I could listen occasionally What the most consistent Zappa album
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 18, 2020 20:13:04 GMT
Playing Inca Roads from the separate clip, between changing CDs Saving the full album when I get in the office to play on speakers
Quite like it. Reminds me of Steve Vai - who of course learned a lot of what he does from Zappa. A nod or two to Soft Machine too.
If I could change one thing, no silly vocals
Will be back
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Post by Barrington on Feb 19, 2020 11:37:07 GMT
Well it's all very clever and tight but I need some songs , it's far too late in life for me to take this and other Zappa works on , I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have got it 40 years ago either . I don't like this free form jamming , I'm not keen on Santana although I do like GD (just bought the triple CD Barton Hall concert ).
Anyway back to this and for the pleasure it gave me 1/5 .
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Post by Slinger on Feb 19, 2020 12:39:02 GMT
I don't like this free form jamming... I know what you mean, Barry, but trust me when I say that Zappa's "jamming" meant that the band rehearsed 8 hours a day when they were preparing for a tour. It's some of the most tightly rehearsed jamming you'll ever hear. This is what Arthur Barrows, Zappa's bassist and band leader on the '78 tour had to say... Not preaching at you, Barry, but I thought it might give everyone some insight into Zappa's methods. His hero was composer Edgard Varese. Now that is some way out shit.
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Post by Barrington on Feb 19, 2020 14:11:57 GMT
I did say tight Paul , free form was a bad choice , free form style would be a better description .
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 19, 2020 17:12:22 GMT
Clever. Talented musicians but not for me. Reminds me of Gong in places. Probably Gong referencing Zappa
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 19, 2020 17:18:45 GMT
Oh crikey no, not Roxy Music! 'Roxy and Elsewhere' is a live album. Click the link, Martin - you'll love that track, it sounds just like Yello! Actually, seriously, you might like it. Some great bits in there. Wish they had skipped the vocals
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 17:45:55 GMT
I quite like this one, Chris. 3/5 from me.
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