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Post by user211 on May 12, 2020 11:58:39 GMT
Nice idea but I can't see anyone funding it.
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Post by MartinT on May 12, 2020 12:02:42 GMT
Not to mention the non-trivial positioning logistics and the years it would take to get them all in place. What about objects flying in at an angle to the planetary orbits?
Stet - I see Jerry already mentioned a sphere of them.
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Post by jandl100 on May 12, 2020 14:27:31 GMT
A cubesat approach may be surprisingly affordable (talking off the top of my head!), by interplanetary probe standards anyway.
And the devices would need to be very small to have any chance of meeting the necessary trajectory matching requirements.
Yes, it would take a few years to set up, but many space missions take years to get into place.
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Post by jandl100 on May 12, 2020 14:46:14 GMT
You could get Trump to fund it by telling him it's the first phase of a solar system defence wall against alien invasion.
(Note the cunning use of the word wall, that'll make it a sure fire winner).
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Post by MartinT on May 12, 2020 16:51:35 GMT
...or just say there are Mexicans out there.
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Post by jandl100 on May 20, 2020 8:06:00 GMT
I must confess that I haven't got my head round Bayesian statistics, but here's a guy who has and has applied it to the probability of life emerging elsewhere in the universe given life's history on our little planet. "We know from the geological record that life started relatively quickly, as soon our planet's environment was stable enough to support it. We also know that the first multicellular organism, which eventually produced today's technological civilization, took far longer to evolve, approximately 4 billion years." "The rapid emergence of life and the late evolution of humanity, in the context of the timeline of evolution, are certainly suggestive," Kipping said. "But in this study it's possible to actually quantify what the facts tell us." "Kipping's conclusion is that if planets with similar conditions and evolutionary time lines to Earth are common, then the analysis suggests that life should have little problem spontaneously emerging on other planets. And what are the odds that these extraterrestrial lives could be complex, differentiated and intelligent? Here, Kipping's inquiry is less assured, finding just 3:2 odds in favor of intelligent life." "The analysis can't provide certainties or guarantees, only statistical probabilities based on what happened here on Earth," Kipping said. "Yet encouragingly, the case for a universe teeming with life emerges as the favored bet. The search for intelligent life in worlds beyond Earth should be by no means discouraged." phys.org/news/2020-05-odds-life-intelligence-emerging-planet.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
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Post by MartinT on May 20, 2020 10:34:07 GMT
It's astoundingly arrogant for anyone to assume that we are the only sentient species in the universe. Statistics suggest that there have to be many other planets capable of supporting life. What does seem more probable is that we will remain isolated from them and they from us due to the sheer distances involved, as well as time dilation.
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Post by jandl100 on May 22, 2020 14:40:43 GMT
New observations show evidence for a recent 100 million year long starburst at the centre of our Milky Way galaxy creating 100,000 supernovae. " 80 per cent of the stars now in the galactic centre were born between 8 and 13.5 billion years ago. Then, for a period starting eight billion years ago and lasting until just a billion years ago, very few stars at all were born in the galactic centre. Then, something dramatic must have happened, because Schödel’s team have found evidence for a starburst so intense that more than a hundred stars were being born every year, for a period lasting about 100 million years. These stars would have led to 100,000 supernovae in that period, rivalling the most extreme star-forming regions in the known Universe. It’s not known what caused this acceleration in star formation – perhaps it resulted from a minor collision with a huge gas cloud or dwarf galaxy, or something else entirely." Here's a view to the centre of the Milky Way cunningly avoiding the dust and gas clouds that usually obscure things. This image taken in near-infrared, rather than optical wavelengths. A 4 million solar mass black hole hides in the bright central region. astronomynow.com/2020/05/04/a-hundred-thousand-supernovae/?utm_source=Astronomy+Now+Newsalert&utm_campaign=51fdb123f1-&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e789188a36-51fdb123f1-363779713&mc_cid=51fdb123f1&mc_eid=537ad57bcf
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Post by MartinT on May 22, 2020 19:25:12 GMT
...so a lot of stars have been sucked into oblivion already to amass 4 million Sols.
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Post by jandl100 on May 24, 2020 14:50:05 GMT
This is cool - such an amazing amount of detail
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Post by jandl100 on May 27, 2020 18:38:03 GMT
This is interesting - a recent study indicates that our Sun may have been formed as a direct result of the gravitational interaction of our Milky Way galaxy with a dwarf galaxy that orbits around it. The dwarf galaxy is kind of skimming around us making multiple passes - it's first approach 5-6 billion years ago initiated a burst of star formation in the Milky Way that coincides with the birth of our own sun 4.5 billion years ago. The link below shows a video simulation of the orbit (and break-up) of the dwarf galaxy around the Milky Way and how it synchronises with observed increases in star formation. www.nanowerk.com/news2/space/newsid=55235.php
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Post by MartinT on May 27, 2020 18:56:02 GMT
Nice simulation. Looks like our Milky Way screwed the dwarf galaxy quite badly.
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Post by jandl100 on May 28, 2020 7:57:16 GMT
This is quite a biggie in the world of astronomy. 95% of the stuff in the universe is a mystery to us - Dark Energy and Dark Matter together are thought to make up 95% of everything. They are called Dark because we haven't a frigging clue what they are. OK, forget about them. The "known" 5% of ordinary matter that makes up the stars, galaxies, planets (and us) is what is under discussion here. That too has been an embarassment - because when we added up all the ordinary matter we could see it only came to about 2.5% of the universe. Bugger. It has long been suspected that the other half of the 5% was there, just spread out tenuously between the galaxies, but very hard to spot as it doesn't do much. Fast Radio Bursts (FRBs) have come to our rescue as a kind of torch shining through billions of light years of space. No, sigh, we don't really know what causes FRBs, either. But what they are is very short duration (milliseconds) burst of radio energy, often from very far away across the universe. These evidently started as a single almost instantaneous outburst, the radio waves from which then cross the universe to get to us. Usefully, different wavelengths travel at different speeds when going through matter - even the very thin stuff that might exist between galaxies. So, looking at a FRB the signal gets smeared in arrival time across different wavelengths - and the amount of smearing can be used to calculate the amount of "stuff" the signal has passed thorigh. And, lo and behold, when the signals from a bunch of these quite rare FRBs are studied, that amount of stuff has been found to add up to the missing half of ordinary matter! Quite an extraordinary result, actually. So, whilst we are still clueless about 95% of the universe, we now have a better understanding of the remaining 5%, and all the stuff adds up to what we think it should given current theories - which is a major boost for those current theories. Maybe we do have some clue as to what is going on. Yay. phys.org/news/2020-05-cosmic-unveil-universe.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
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Post by MartinT on May 28, 2020 9:32:07 GMT
Understanding only 5% of all 'stuff' is a long way short of having a clue, but I admire your optimism!
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Post by jandl100 on May 28, 2020 9:57:00 GMT
Well, it's a start. And it is quite impressive that the right amount of material showed up in the FRB signals, although that could just have been a coincidence.
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Post by jandl100 on May 30, 2020 12:37:25 GMT
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 26, 2020 7:21:05 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Jun 26, 2020 7:33:51 GMT
Could that be a planet or planets forming? Amazing.
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Post by jandl100 on Jun 26, 2020 13:15:06 GMT
A 10-year time lapse of the sun from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory As of June 2020, NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory—SDO—has now been watching the sun nonstop for over a full decade. From its orbit in space around Earth, SDO has gathered 425 million high-resolution images of the sun, amassing 20 million gigabytes of data over the past 10 years. This information has enabled countless new discoveries about the workings of our closest star and how it influences the solar system. phys.org/news/2020-06-video-year-lapse-sun-nasa.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletterIn this 10 year time lapse video of our local star, every second is a day.
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Post by TheMooN on Jun 26, 2020 15:20:35 GMT
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