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Post by MartinT on May 25, 2020 12:08:50 GMT
Everest justification? Carry on, let us know how it compares when you get it running. Should be no problem with performance!
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Post by edward on May 25, 2020 13:02:39 GMT
Volumio for the PC (x86) platform is a stand alone operating system, it is not a program that you run within Windows as an app. Simply disconnect the HDD you have in the Lenovo machine, connect the SSD and install Volumio on that. That may well end up being the ultimate solution. My original thought was not to "waste" a copy of Win10 Pro and attempt some sort of dual-boot solution. As Volumio effectively wipes your HDD though, that approach is not looking favourable. I still need to investigate further and see if I can actually achieve that using partitioning on drive. Martin, to answer your question, because it's there. It's a case of lock-down boredom relief crossed with good old "I wonder if..." I happened to see that Volumio was available for the PC and that was enough to set me on the path. Worst case scenario(s): I'll either have an interesting Volumio build, or a working W10 Pro mini-PC. You will not be 'wasting' a Windows 10 Pro copy. Worst case scenario you need to reinstall windows 10 - but as the Lenovo will already have a digital licence attached to it the reinstall will automatically be activated with the already existing licence.
But not sure why you are thinking of a dual boot scenario. Just remove the existing hard disc drive from the Lenovo and set it aside. Then insert the new SDD drive you mentioned into the Lenovo and install Volumio on that blank SSD.
If the Volumio instance on the Lenevo is not too your liking for any reason just put the HDD back into the Lenovo for your existing Windows 10 Pro instance.
If you have not already bought the SDD and simply want to play with Volumio on the Lenovo's existing HDD then just do that and allow Volumio to delete Windows 10 and allow it to use the full HDD. Mucking around with dual boot, imo, just adds a layer of complexity you probably don't need at this stage.
The Windows 10 ISO can be downloaded here. If you want to be doubly sure that Windows 10 pro will be activated again on a new install (on the Lenovo machine) just link the Lenovo's Window 10 Pro activation to your Microsoft account. (obvs you need to do this before wiping out Windows 10).
A different way of playing around before you get a SDD is to use an old SATA drive (we all have these yes?) and install Volumio on that.
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Post by Slinger on May 25, 2020 13:21:37 GMT
Bottom line, I'm just trying to have a bit of fun.
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Post by MartinT on May 25, 2020 14:43:19 GMT
Bottom line, I'm just trying to have a bit of fun. Nothing wrong with that. I have some 'fun' arriving soon from China.
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Post by Slinger on May 25, 2020 15:01:31 GMT
Bottom line, I'm just trying to have a bit of fun. Nothing wrong with that. I have some 'fun' arriving soon from China. Erotic medical-grade facemasks?
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Post by MartinT on May 25, 2020 15:04:34 GMT
Erotic medical-grade facemasks? <boggle>!
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Post by petea on May 25, 2020 22:43:33 GMT
Erotic medical-grade, chicken gallbladders I believe.
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Post by Slinger on May 25, 2020 23:09:32 GMT
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Post by Slinger on May 27, 2020 20:44:00 GMT
My mini-PC turned up today, but I'm still waiting for the SSD.
It occurred to me earlier that I've got a 7" touch-screen knocking about, the one I was going to use as a purely decorative "dumb" display for the ATB. I'm now thinking that although it suffered from "lag" when I trialled it's capacitive touch-screen capabilities with the ATB it might respond better to the extra poke available via the mini-PC. According to the manufacturer Windows 10 is supported (no driver required) so with that in mind I've ordered a Display Port to HDMI adapter. That way I can use a spare AQ Cinnamon HDMI lead to feed it.
I mentioned building a streamer using the mini-PC elsewhere, and somebody's only been and gone and beaten me to it with an old Acer mini desktop PC he had lying around. First impressions are, apparently, extremely favourable.
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Post by MartinT on May 27, 2020 21:59:25 GMT
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Post by Slinger on May 29, 2020 20:21:54 GMT
All of my "bits" are here now. I've replaced the HD with the new 480Gb SSD, plugged in my little touch screen (which worked, but I ended up using a proper keyboard to make life easier) shoved a flash drive full of Volumio in the front and it fires up. I've set up Volumio (once I'd remembered that the new installation had changed the IP address so I had to change the NFS settings on both of my NAS boxes) and music is coming out of my new installation. First problem - trying to copy that installation to the new SSD. Volumio only wants to copy itself to the flash drive it's already on. If I can't get it onto the SSD then the whole point of the installation is pretty much lost. Still, early days. Time to do some research. I was getting worried, I began to think that everything was going to work first time. It looks as if I might get some mileage out of it after all though.
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Post by MartinT on May 29, 2020 21:26:05 GMT
You could try doing an image backup of the flash drive and restoring it to the SSD, but I don't think it'll work due to the completely different disk format. There may be a Linux tool to do it. I'm sure you'll have fun!
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Post by Slinger on May 29, 2020 22:08:45 GMT
Very odd. I installed Win 10 on the SSD, just so that there was *something* to overwrite. Windows installed fine and worked as it should. I rebooted Volumio from the flash drive and the installation option was now pointing at the SSD. I hit the button and the operation completed with no errors. On completion, I was told to reboot and remove the flash drive. I did that, and obviously, it still doesn't work. When I attempt to boot from the SSD it goes into a "no operating system found" loop, and I can't even find my way into the BIOS. I think that's enough for tonight.
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Post by edward on May 29, 2020 22:10:49 GMT
All of my "bits" are here now. I've replaced the HD with the new 480Gb SSD, plugged in my little touch screen (which worked, but I ended up using a proper keyboard to make life easier) shoved a flash drive full of Volumio in the front and it fires up. I've set up Volumio (once I'd remembered that the new installation had changed the IP address so I had to change the NFS settings on both of my NAS boxes) and music is coming out of my new installation. First problem - trying to copy that installation to the new SSD. Volumio only wants to copy itself to the flash drive it's already on. If I can't get it onto the SSD then the whole point of the installation is pretty much lost. Still, early days. Time to do some research. I was getting worried, I began to think that everything was going to work first time. It looks as if I might get some mileage out of it after all though. Try this: forum.volumio.org/volumio-x86-install-hdd-t5058.html
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Post by edward on May 29, 2020 22:39:21 GMT
An alternative is to temporarily connect your new SSD to a spare SATA port on a different PC and flash the SSD directly and then move the SSD over to to the Lenovo.
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Post by MartinT on May 29, 2020 22:58:37 GMT
Or put the SSD into a USB caddy and flash it as if it were a card.
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Post by Slinger on May 30, 2020 15:16:17 GMT
Or put the SSD into a USB caddy and flash it as if it were a card. That was my first thought, and I've got a 2.5" USB3 / SATA caddy arriving on Monday. TBH, for the price, it's worth buying just to have one knocking around anyway, and I can also use it to reformat the drive that came with the Mini-PC - a 7-year-old Hitachi 320Gb - to keep as a spare.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 1, 2020 16:57:25 GMT
Oh well, so much for that idea.
I slapped the SSD into the caddy and reformatted it to FAT32 so I could start with a "blank canvas" so to speak. I flashed Volumio to it using etcher and then put the mini-PC back together again. The result was exactly the same, it's telling me it isn't seeing an OS. Plug the flash drive loaded with Volumio in and it boots first time.
Back to the drawing board.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 1, 2020 17:25:55 GMT
Surely there must be a drive installer for it, or a way of imaging it to SSD? Are all the x86 users out there really booting from a flash drive?
Set Google-fu to maximum!
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Post by John on Jun 2, 2020 18:22:26 GMT
A quick update on power supply to the Oehlbach reclocker. First a power bank will work from 5v on the Oehlbach For whatever reason the C type output to the clock will not work on the power bank that Jules linked to. Its better than the stock SMPS and initially you will need to power something else of the power bank as current draw is low. But I be able to remove once all playing So might be worth trying a cheaper power supply I gone a bit OTT by putting in 7.5v Supercharger by Temple audio it's a improvement in depth soundstage and fluidity Just s bit darker background but it's subtle, certainly not night and day so might be worth adding a Chinese linear power supply instead
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