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Post by Slinger on Nov 21, 2022 15:36:14 GMT
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seanm
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Post by seanm on Nov 22, 2022 9:52:47 GMT
This is a bit of a blow, not least for those that have been laid off. Having returned to blighty in the summer, I set about buying just enough smart bits so that I knew enough to plan things properly in the future... For example : - Lights: Should they be controlled via smart bulbs, a smart mains plug adapter or a smart light switch?
- What about smart light switches and actual wall sockets rather than plug in adaptors?
- Multiway extensions: can you control each socket or only the whole thing?
This has been a success which I have enjoyed... Some highlights: The AV system hangs off of a smart multiway adaptor, but the subwoofer is on the other side of the lounge, they are now controlled as a single group Since we're effectively back in the 1970s and electric blankets are now back in vogue, It is really great being able to turn it on from downstairs 15mins before bed I particularly like the hierarchy of groups (for example rooms). This allows single commands to do a lot of things... for example "GoodNight" turns off all unnecessary things with a single command... monitors, lights, AV system etc All of this was hanging off of a single ancient echo dot (gen 2 I think).... I was waiting for black Friday or similar to buy a new echo. A 5th gen (with a clock) arrived at the weekend. I am frankly amazed at the sound quality from something under £30!! I rather like Alexa control of music when I am doing other things such as cooking. It's a shame that unlike spotify, there is no easy/cheap/acceptable way to plumb Alexa controlled Amazon music into the actual HiFi. I also took advantage of black Friday to get an Alexa Auto. I will experiment with this in the car and ancient camper van The 5th gen echo, is able to be a node in an Amazon Wifi router mesh set up (something which might become relevant in the future). It also has temperature and ultrasonic motion detectors One of the unexpected/hidden benefits is being able to build quite a sophisticated "security" system for little additional effort or cost. Rather than a simple timer controlled light or PIR controlled light on the drive way, you can control lights based upon sunset (+/- a desired offset) and you could program light sequences which simulate virtual occupants moving around the house. I like the idea of using a PIR sensor on the driveway to trigger a light in an unused bedroom... to simulate the occupants being awoken. All in all this has been a blast!
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Post by Slinger on Nov 22, 2022 13:43:16 GMT
I've had Alexa turning things on and off for me for quite some time. I've got Echo Shows of varying sizes in the Living Room, Kitchen, and Bedroom, with a bog-standard "puck" near the front door, specifically for the lighting there. The Echo Show 8 makes a brilliant bedside "smart" alarm clock.
My AV system can also be completely shut down via a smart socket.
I too will be royally pissed off if Amazon deprecate or delete the Alexa system.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2022 12:51:27 GMT
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Post by Slinger on Nov 25, 2022 13:49:47 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2022 14:09:38 GMT
It seems to be going the way of 3D TVs, another technology failure (but at least voice assistance has a good reason to exist).
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Post by Slinger on Nov 25, 2022 15:00:37 GMT
Speaking as someone with more than a few 3D Blu-rays, and who actually enjoys watching well-made 3D (The Star Trek movies are an excellent example, as are Peter Jackson's Lord Of The Rings, and Hobbit series) movies, I'm starting to take this stuff fekkin personally.
As for Alexa, it's genuinely useful, not just a lazy shortcut, or a novelty, to me. As I use a walking stick (or at least, I should) I'm often "one hand down" before I've started, and so if I'm carrying something being able to turn lights on ahead of my arrival, instead of having to do it with my nose, or my chin is very handy.
Getting out for a pee in the middle of the night (did you ever wonder why they were called the "wee small hours?")? No problem, the loo light goes on before I'm even out of bed.
"Alexa, AV OFF" and my telly, AV amp, Freesat box/recorder are all switched off for the night, as well as the Chromecast and the Fire Stick which hang off of the TV.
I've also got a load of smart plugs ready to set up the HiFi, so it will be shitchable both by individual component and as a whole.
My Echo Show 8 is the probably best bedside radio/alarm/etc. you can get. It also allows me to send Amazon Music to my bedside Bluetooth speaker and, of course controls the lights. If I wanted it too, it would read to me as well. Sadly, I find I can't get on with audio books, but that's another matter.
As I say, I find Alexa genuinely useful. Could I live without it? Obviously. Would I want to though? Not on your sweet bippy.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 25, 2022 15:16:19 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I'm reporting it but I'm not against voice assistance at all. I can see all the benefits.
Perhaps Amazon will just scale it back but not abandon it?
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 25, 2022 16:01:07 GMT
I wonder if it is just before it's time
The boss is happy asking Alexa to find items on Prime. I feel self conscious which I find odd. Can be useful, can also deliver nothing or nothing like you say
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seanm
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Post by seanm on Nov 26, 2022 9:16:22 GMT
I am surprised how Alexa made itself useful. About 5-6 years ago I was back in the UK and a non-techy friend had an early "speaker" echo in her kitchen which she shouted at to play music. I thought this was fun, but didn't see the point/need. However, I was sufficiently curious to invest £10 in the most basic model during prime day. This echo dot was in daily use until last weekend when it was upgraded. I really expected to play with it and then for it to gather dust. I had never been one for shopping lists, I make up for this omission by generally having a spare of everything and exhaustively walking up and down every aisle in the supermarket. I really could not see that the echo had anything to offer over a pen and paper and/or more or less any app on a phone. However, I started using the Alexa shopping list, you shout at Alexa and it ends up in the app on any phone or tablet. What I had not considered, that for me, 90% of the time, I first notice that something is running low when I am either cooking, cleaning or in the shower. In all three scenarios, I am not in the position to write or type without stopping, which of course never happens. My shopping habits changed, I soon found that for the first time, my shopping trips were accurate enough to remove the safety blanket of having at least one spare of everything. The amount of stuff in the kitchen cupboards literally halved in a few weeks with few disasters and/or panic last minute shopping trips. I am still 100% convinced that *in theory* Alexa offers little that cannot already be done several other ways. BUT, this is not the whole picture. As Slinger says, the hands free aspect is not to be ignored.
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Post by petea on Nov 26, 2022 10:35:43 GMT
I now have this disturbing image of someone in the shower shouting to Alexa that we are out of baked beans!
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seanm
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Post by seanm on Nov 26, 2022 13:58:07 GMT
I now have this disturbing image of someone in the shower shouting to Alexa that we are out of baked beans! My work here is done!
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Post by stanleyb on Nov 26, 2022 22:44:29 GMT
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