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Post by bigman80 on Jul 19, 2018 12:23:10 GMT
A scope isn't accurate enough and a spectrum analyser only any good it it has 1dB division together with a stable sweep/tracking generator. But this is pointless thread drift. I am sure someone will go to the effort of making this happen.
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Post by DaveC on Jul 19, 2018 12:31:54 GMT
I think they might !!
Dave
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Post by dsjr on Jul 19, 2018 12:51:21 GMT
Oh please... I don't know whether to laugh or cry..
Having heard for myself a good few examples of Phono 1's, Phono 2's with one and then two power supplies, I put the 'deep bass' down to the difference the power supplies make. In this design, I just found adding the extra supplies seems to detach the music reproduction from the mechanics of the job at hand - a very clumsy way of describing it, but I suspect this is one reason why expensive phono stages exist over cheap, wall-wart powered examples. What did surprise me though, was how supposedly humble op-amps respond to larger capacity supplies, something I never deemed would be an issue in low level circuits like this. Again, I'm talking out of my comfort zone here, but the differences are there and clearly audible to those who've compared them, for whatever reason...
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Post by Firebottle on Jul 19, 2018 13:37:44 GMT
What did surprise me though, was how supposedly humble op-amps respond to larger capacity supplies, something I never deemed would be an issue in low level circuits like this. Me too.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 19, 2018 15:10:36 GMT
I heard an early Jez (Arkless) phono stage in my system and was disappointed by the sound. It came with a puny wallwart power supply. When I pointed out to him and that a beefier PSU would undoubtedly help, I received a barrage of the usual Jez-type abuse.
I have grown to understand that almost any component performs better with an over-engineered power supply, whomever it's designed by. Music signal is modulated power. There is no such thing as infinite PSRR. Etc.
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Post by DaveC on Jul 19, 2018 15:20:06 GMT
Good designers always put in an overrated PSU, it dosen't cost much and it's generally good practice. The trick though is to put in a properly specified transformer, not "just" overrated.
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 16:25:27 GMT
A good properly design power supply is not just a correctly spec'd Tx put the matching chain of components that it is attached to before it reaches it's finial destination imho
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Post by DaveC on Jul 19, 2018 17:54:28 GMT
A good properly design power supply is not just a correctly spec'd Tx put the matching chain of components that it is attached to before it reaches it's finial destination imho Exactly, but often this is paired with a sup-par transformer !
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