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Post by julesd68 on Jul 8, 2018 15:41:44 GMT
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Post by Slinger on Jul 8, 2018 16:55:22 GMT
I've got a half dozen versions, and the one I always go back to is Rostropovich. Yo-Yo Ma probably comes second, although Fournier is good too. It really comes down to personal taste, Jules. When there's only one instrument on offer it just depends on how you prefer to hear it played. The next version I want to hear is Truls Mørk's.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 8, 2018 17:00:19 GMT
I'm not a fan of Ma or Slava, but what do I know?
I've been rather taken by this recently ...
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 8, 2018 17:36:54 GMT
It really comes down to personal taste, Jules. When there's only one instrument on offer it just depends on how you prefer to hear it played. Naturally, but I always find it interesting to see how tastes differ in such works when played in such a wide variety of styles! I'm compiling a rather long short-list for a penalty shoot-out ...  Fournier Tortelier Rostropovich Ma Starker Gendron Bijlsma Harnoncourt Harrell Schiff Clement Sadly all vary from expensive to very expensive on vinyl! |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 8, 2018 17:38:11 GMT
I'm not a fan of Ma or Slava, but what do I know? I've been rather taken by this recently ... Thanks J will check it out, that's a new one for me ... |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 10, 2018 14:02:19 GMT
Here is my current favourite - Maurice Gendron from 1964 - it is mid tempo with a light, ethereal and highly lyrical quality. Quite wonderful tone and poise, sublime.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 10, 2018 14:03:36 GMT
I'm not a fan of Ma or Slava, but what do I know? I've been rather taken by this recently ... Reminds me very much of Heinrich Schiff's performance Jerry! |
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Post by Slinger on Jul 10, 2018 14:53:45 GMT
And just to prove the "it's a personal thing" thing, I have the Gendron and I've always thought it was good, but too "safe" for my tastes.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 10, 2018 15:37:27 GMT
I found that Gendron gets closest to what represents the essence of the music for me, but of course we're all looking for different things ...
My least favourite of all was Rostropovich - it's a reading that I just don't engage with at all, I find it rather soulless compared to many.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 10, 2018 16:18:54 GMT
I think that says everything that needs to be said, Jules. Your favourite is my least favourite, and vice-versa. I thought the Rostropovich had emotion whereas the Gendron lacked soul. Juxtapose the names of the two composers in that sentence and we have your opinion. As we've all said, many times, it's a good job we don't all like the same thing. Vive la difference. Perhaps we can find a version we can 'meet in the middle' on.  I have this set on order... |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 10, 2018 17:11:52 GMT
I think that says everything that needs to be said, Jules. Your favourite is my least favourite, and vice-versa. I thought the Rostropovich, had emotion whereas the Gendron lacked soul. Juxtapose the names of the two composers in that sentence and we have your opinion. As we've all said, many times, it's a good job we don't all like the same thing. Vive la difference. Perhaps we can find a version meets in the middle. Juxtapose the name of the composers? Sorry you’ve lost me with that comment Paul! We certainly don't want everyone liking the same thing, or there would be a lot less to discuss about what motivates our choices. I certainly concur with you on the Mork, yes, I like that a lot … Very natural tempo and a lovely fluidity to his playing. Definitely soulful. Interesting that the recording picked up a lot of his breathing ... If I could afford it I would be buying the newer vinyl releases of Gendron, Starker and Clement, but I can’t!! |
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 10, 2018 17:14:07 GMT
Playing the Gendron now. My goodness. I'm with Paul on this one. Dreary stuff! He barely seems interested. Hearing emotion in music appears to be a very personal thing. These cello suites seem an excellent example. And, as another example, Martin(T) finds Rattle's Birmingham Mahler 10th drenched in heart rending emotion, I find it as drab and passionless as a wet Sunday afternoon in Scunthorpe! Most strange. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 10, 2018 17:15:48 GMT
There's always the Fournier. I have a lot of time for his interpretations.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 10, 2018 17:20:00 GMT
And, as another example, Martin(T) finds Rattle's Birmingham Mahler 10th drenched in heart rending emotion, I find it as drab and passionless as a wet Sunday afternoon in Scunthorpe! The all-important difference is the orchestra. Rattle really gelled with the Bournemouth, be they a little rough at the edges. Likewise the CBSO. I can't say I've liked anything he's recorded with the BPO and certainly not that much later recording of the 10th. Not so much gel as desiccated. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 10, 2018 17:20:56 GMT
For me Bach needs very little 'added' by the soloist in terms of emotion, as the soul of the music can speak for itself. I don't feel it needs breakneck speed or masses of vibrato and very pronounced phrasing. I generally like quite an understated approach in a certain 'Baroque spirit'. But this is the fun of listening to lots of different recordings and we need musicians who are fearless and prepared to try new approaches!
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 10, 2018 17:21:03 GMT
.... ugh, enough Gendron. On with Onczay on Naxos. I've always liked this set - sadly not on vinyl, of course.  |
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Post by Slinger on Jul 10, 2018 17:23:18 GMT
I think that says everything that needs to be said, Jules. Your favourite is my least favourite, and vice-versa. I thought the Rostropovich, had emotion whereas the Gendron lacked soul. Juxtapose the names of the two composers in that sentence and we have your opinion. As we've all said, many times, it's a good job we don't all like the same thing. Vive la difference. Perhaps we can find a version we can 'meet in the middle' on. Juxtapose the name of the composers? Sorry you’ve lost me with that comment Paul! Sorry Jules, I was having a senior moment. I meant musicians, not composers. DOH! |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 10, 2018 17:23:59 GMT
The Tortelier is even better.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 11, 2018 12:43:20 GMT
Fournier is unashamedly romantic but very enjoyable, Tortelier reins it in a bit more ...
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 13, 2018 17:01:16 GMT
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