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Post by Chris on Jun 3, 2018 8:18:04 GMT
Heard his GK71 amp on you tube the other day and it sounds excellent. Has anyone heard one or seen one in real life?
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 3, 2018 8:48:06 GMT
Never 'eard of it gub'nor.
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Post by Chris on Jun 3, 2018 8:51:03 GMT
No,neither had I. Russian bloke that posts on an FB thing.
Seems VERY good but not sure what his prices are like.
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Post by pre65 on Jun 3, 2018 9:31:25 GMT
GK-71 are not that rare. I have had a pair of monoblock amps (self built) for several years.
How the hell can one listen to that You Tube video, and single out the amps as sounding excellent ?
It sounded OK to me, but how much was the amps and how much the rest of the system ?
To me, GK-71 was like 300b, but more. But then, I have not heard all 300b amps.
I hope to take my GK-71 amps to Owston again on June 30th, just got a tweek to do on the way the cathode is connected to the cathode resistor.
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Post by Chris on Jun 3, 2018 11:22:41 GMT
Good points there pre65. He has got other vids and names the speakers used.
Don't know how you'd go about separating which is the good bit
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 3, 2018 12:08:24 GMT
You can't and that's a problem that so many people overlook. The number of times you hear people writing a product off as crap or worse because they heard it once in an unknown system and room is unreal. System is the key word. It's also why bake-offs of one type of component are of limited usefulness in my opinion.
I have often said that I think there are very few really bad components, just poor system choices.
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Post by Chris on Jun 3, 2018 13:15:54 GMT
More good points.
I suppose the only REAL way to tell if something's for you is to hear it in your own home with your own speakers and source.
Damn,that would make buying something like that very,very difficult.
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 3, 2018 13:28:13 GMT
The risks are not so bad if you are buying something that is easy to move on if you don't like it. I know someone who has an extremely expensive CD player that he got at a considerable discount but found it didn't really gel with his system and then realised it was impossible to sell it because virtually no-one has heard of it (I can't even remember the brand). He had to completely rebuild the system around the CD player - it sounds great now, but why put yourself through that sort of hassle?
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Post by dsjr on Jun 3, 2018 16:10:45 GMT
I think bake-offs can work if the attendees largely know each other, are familiar with the room and also the main gear used. It can be great fun, at least it used to be for me. I agree that an unfamiliar room with unfamiliar and maybe rather 'wild' equipment being used will take some getting used to, especially if there's no known (speaker) reference from a previous occasion, but sometimes one can hear through this.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jun 3, 2018 17:05:10 GMT
System is the key word. It's also why bake-offs of one type of component are of limited usefulness in my opinion. Howa man Chris! We all know. We all know, the real merit of bakeoffs is in their effectiveness in creating havoc on forums. And a fine job they do too. |
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 3, 2018 17:06:30 GMT
Yes they can be fun, and that, to me is the point of it. But to come away with a definitive "Item X is better than Item Y" is extremely dodgy, I'd say.
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jun 3, 2018 17:27:46 GMT
They can however give you a good idea of which direction to go. I’ve learned a huge amount over the years from attending Owston and other do’s.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 3, 2018 18:39:09 GMT
Yes, bake-offs can only help you to shortlist equipment. You must still listen in the context of your own system before making a final choice.
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