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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 9:58:24 GMT
This weekend I was asked to update a Claymore. Unfortunately this Claymore is a copy made by Bensley Electronics, and somehow they are using a rip of Claymore 2 circuit board. If you are offered one of these beware it is not made by me.
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 26, 2018 10:09:42 GMT
Thanks Colin
How can we tell the fake from the real ?
Why are they making a copy of the Claymore ? Apart from making money
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 10:37:54 GMT
Well these,s guy printed there name on the back, also Money second hand Claymores start from £150 - £400 on E Bay. And on my circuit board a hide a cryptic messages this has none. Such has " Mike is good looking" he he
Also note the un-sleeved transformer wire, not safe enough so I would only do that on Proto Types. Also the early Claymores PCB layout was done using Chartpack tape not a CAD package like this one. The track are to straight a no curves. Also the Driver Transistors are wrong type for these FET's so unstable and will burn one day. And a single Negative wire for speaker, bad practice. And in this "expensive" amp cheap RS knobs, no way.
Next Emitter Follower Tape Output not a true buffer stage using a Op-amp as in my design, cheap and not fantastic.
And much more a poor copy very poor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 12:06:57 GMT
That must be extremely frustrating for you Colin. Especially as it is carrying the Inca Tech and Claymore names on the front.
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Post by mikeyb on Feb 26, 2018 12:35:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 14:16:58 GMT
That's one hell of a lot of work to counterfeit an amp that hasn't been made in a long time. Do you think this was done at the time of the Claymore 2 Colin? Otherwise they would make far more by copying the mk1 or your current version.
I wonder how many others there are out there? Little consolation, but I'm glad they copied the MK2 because the MK1 is a design icon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 15:07:22 GMT
It was done between 1990 and 1998
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Post by sq225917 on Feb 26, 2018 17:41:16 GMT
Did you retain the rights to all the designs?
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 26, 2018 17:52:24 GMT
Presumably, they're long gone from that address Colin?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 18:16:16 GMT
It's downright odd: You copy something then put a different name AND YOUR ADDRESS on the back! It doesn't appear to be the work of a genius, no wonder they had to copy the work of someone who may be more deserving of such a title.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 18:24:56 GMT
Street view indicates it's the house on the right of this image. That's assuming the nonsensical Roman Numerals mean 28
Probably long gone anyway, but it doesn't look like a business premises in any way. Very odd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 14:17:35 GMT
Crickey I knew this place the right hand brick building we cant see was a old Pharmacy circa 1900.Next door was a lovely house in wood with sunken cellar which was once a barn on the surface, all were facing a river long since dried up. The dear old lady living there found clay pipes and oyster shells in the ex-barn, and few silver coins George 3 I think. And was rented to Studio Power then owned by Russell Kaufman of Russell K speakers today, how odd.1989 ish
mmmm me thinking odd things buzzing here.
Oh poo who care now, time to choose my coffin.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 14:19:15 GMT
The fake Claymore is coming to my workshop to be fixed I tell you more then, cool.
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Post by Chris on Feb 27, 2018 20:27:19 GMT
How odd that it's ended up with you
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Post by DaveC on Mar 5, 2018 8:37:42 GMT
Oh poo who care now, time to choose my coffin. On "another" forum you posted : Please contact me. Thanks Dave
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 17:14:09 GMT
Well the Bensley Claymore is alive with a few mods and sound OK
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Post by Chris on Mar 14, 2018 17:41:01 GMT
Is that good or bad?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 19:46:00 GMT
One happy owner so good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 14:28:13 GMT
Just to add to the story, My wife Jenny and I was married just 2 weeks and were coming back from Honeymoon we had a great time in Lynmouth Devon. (it still hold a special place in my heart). On the way back she crashed the car on the M5 she was killed. Me I had burns and few broken bones. The few month after shitty event I was still in shock and to be honest I had no clue what the hell I was doing.And often drunk and I fell of a balcony into our garden in at Leigh On Sea, breaking me arm again. In that period I had designed lots of things according to my records. One was a new Claymore the artwork for the tracking was drawn by a sub contractor and I forgot all about it. It seems this contractor passed the PCB layout to Bensley, but the art work text was not changed. Near the reservoir capacitors in small writing on the silk screen it says " Design by C.J.Wonfor for Jenny" and the date is the date she died 20th May 1990. So in a funny way these amps are special. Even if I never made them they are special because they memorialise Jenny.
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Post by myles on Mar 15, 2018 14:41:44 GMT
Sorry to hear that Colin, incredibly sad. By design or mistake, Jenny has been remembered in those amps.
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