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Post by pre65 on Feb 18, 2018 12:01:42 GMT
I'm sure most members here are pretty savvy in spotting Ebay scams.
I regularly look at classic cars on Ebay, and for some time now several different "bastards" are offering classic cars, motorcycles, caravans, motorhomes, prestige cars etc at silly (low) prices that they very obviously don't own.
This morning one such bastard is offering 277 assorted vehicles for sale. After a couple of hours Ebay delete the lot then they all pop up again with a different user name, usually a hacked account, this happens many times a day.
This probably also happens with other things like expensive camera gear and hi-fi.
So, the old adage, if it looks too good to be true it's probably a scam.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 18, 2018 12:07:34 GMT
Good advice, Philip.
One wonders why eBay can't detect these scams more effectively. Also, it's quite an effort listing things for sale, how do they relist so quickly?
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Post by Slinger on Feb 18, 2018 14:14:13 GMT
I've seen the same obvious scams when looking through listings for guitars on eBay. They also pop up on Amazon, and not always for expensive items. Most of the Amazon crooks I've seen tend to be based in the U.S. and selling to the U.K. They offer things like new-release DVDs a lot cheaper than U.K. merchants and then disappear. Amazon, of course, will compensate the buyer for goods that didn't arrive and sellers who refuse to communicate so I suppose, in this case, the only losers are Amazon. As you say, if it seems too good to be true it usually is.
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 18, 2018 14:53:53 GMT
Saw it some years ago with hifi.
Worst of the lot was Craigs List.
When you offer to collect from their distant address, EG. Shetlands they go quiet
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Post by pre65 on Feb 18, 2018 21:23:45 GMT
Good advice, Philip. One wonders why eBay can't detect these scams more effectively. Also, it's quite an effort listing things for sale, how do they relist so quickly? There must be a way of loading them up offline and then putting them up en masse. The last lot were all entered on the same minute. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 21:47:43 GMT
Good advice, Philip. One wonders why eBay can't detect these scams more effectively. Also, it's quite an effort listing things for sale, how do they relist so quickly? There must be a way of loading them up offline and then putting them up en masse. The last lot were all entered on the same minute. You obviously haven't come across Ebay Turbo Lister. Use it for all my listings. They would have to keep re-verifying it and linking to a new account. There are also some third party listing tools. |
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Post by Chris on Feb 19, 2018 21:56:41 GMT
Always plenty fakes as well.
Some of these scams can be very difficult to spot.
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Post by pre65 on May 20, 2018 21:40:20 GMT
There is a rather nice MGC-GT on Ebay for £6,000 , obviously a scam I thought, but the ad was from a UK dealer group.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGC-GT-BRITISH-RACING-GREEN/352360179298?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
So I sent a message asking to view the car, and this was the reply.
"Hi,
Since I am in the Isle of Man there are only 2 ways to do this sale:
* The first option is to use a transport company that deals with the transaction, vehicle and the money as escrow. I travel for my work and I do not have time to bring the vehicle and I think your free time is limited too, so this is the perfect way to make things easier, fast and safe for both of us. I will pay the company, so you will not pay extra money then the vehicle price. You will get the vehicle to your home address, and you can check the vehicle before making the final decision. I think this is the perfect way for us.
* The second option is by using PayPal pay after delivery service: www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/pay-after-delivery-terms
Please let me know how you want to continue with this transaction and I will provide more details.
"
I'd never heard of PayPal Pay after delivery.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 0:32:23 GMT
These same scams have been going on regularly for the last 15 years that I know of. They are almost always hacked accounts that are used. You can often spot this by the name, for example a hair and beauty seller who has 200 prized hifi treasures fur sale. Another dread giveaway is the fact that the 200 gems have been pictured in 200 different rooms!
eBay do act to take these things down, but their reporting method isn't the best. You have to report each item, when an easily accessible option to report the seller as a potential hacked account would be the quickes and easiest way. I told them this 15 years ago and at regular intervals ever since, but you can't get to talk to anyone with the power to act.,
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Post by pre65 on May 21, 2018 7:30:04 GMT
These same scams have been going on regularly for the last 15 years that I know of. They are almost always hacked accounts that are used. You can often spot this by the name, for example a hair and beauty seller who has 200 prized hifi treasures fur sale. Another dread giveaway is the fact that the 200 gems have been pictured in 200 different rooms! eBay do act to take these things down, but their reporting method isn't the best. You have to report each item, when an easily accessible option to report the seller as a potential hacked account would be the quickes and easiest way. I told them this 15 years ago and at regular intervals ever since, but you can't get to talk to anyone with the power to act.,
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Post by davidf on May 22, 2018 11:15:30 GMT
Oddly enough, after reading this page, I flick over to facebook and there's a post shared by someone offering a 2018 McLaren 720S for £40k - surprise surprise, comments are turned off...
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Post by pre65 on Oct 3, 2018 16:51:29 GMT
Just found a hacked Ebay account offering over 7,000 assorted vehicles, most advertised over 35 times each.
No wonder Ebay have trouble clearing them out. 
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Post by MartinT on Oct 3, 2018 17:23:45 GMT
eBay really aren't trying hard enough to keep sales posts clean of scam artists. They're too busy arguing like bastards over genuine claims.
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Post by pre65 on May 19, 2019 9:22:37 GMT
Ebay "Motors" seems to have more fraudulent vehicles than genuine these days.
Just looked at one hacked site with 3,747 fraudulent items for sale. I have reported some of them but Ebay seem slow in removing them.
I wonder how many fraudsters there are in other categories ?
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Post by MartinT on May 19, 2019 10:25:25 GMT
It's easier to commit fraud behind a keyboard than actually stealing cars, I guess.
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Post by Slinger on May 19, 2019 13:54:03 GMT
I reported someone last week. He had multiple clone adverts for UEFA Champion's League Final tickets, claiming he had a block of 17. His deal was that you send him the (vastly inflated amount of) dosh, and the week before the final (on June 1st) he'd forward your ticket(s). There are so many things wrong with that - apart from the obvious he was also trying to circumvent payment via PayPal/eBay - I won't bother to list them all.
I'm sure it wasn't my complaint that did the job, but the next day all of his ads had been pulled. I did get a huge feeling of satisfaction from the result, though. Unfortunately the "genuine" touts are still selling genuine tickets on Stub Hub/Viagogo and their ilk, for up to £5,500 in some cases, while genuine fans can't get hold of them.
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Post by MikeMusic on May 19, 2019 14:11:21 GMT
Crazy amount of money.
Capitalism gone mental.
Has to be controlled
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Post by MartinT on May 19, 2019 16:43:45 GMT
I thought touts were going to be strangled by limiting the number of tickets that any person could purchase. What happened to that simple idea? Too difficult a decision to make?
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Post by Slinger on May 19, 2019 17:38:38 GMT
I thought touts were going to be strangled by limiting the number of tickets that any person could purchase. What happened to that simple idea? Too difficult a decision to make? In the main they're not tickets that have been purchased, they're corporate freebies that UEFA has doled out to their mates. |
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Post by MartinT on May 19, 2019 19:57:53 GMT
Ah, got it. And no-one who works for these companies asks why some perfect strangers are sitting in their seats?
The only time I benefitted from corporate sponsorship was when NEC sponsored the RPO at the Barbican. My wife and I went to every one we could manage and the seats around us were mostly empty. Used to annoy me that music fans couldn't have made good use of them.
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