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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 11, 2018 10:33:25 GMT
Huge amount of words without saying much
The Business of Music on BBC radio painted a terrible picture of the music industry. Money grabbing dinosaurs who managed to shoot themselves in the foot and elsewhere multiple times
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Post by MartinT on Jan 11, 2018 10:38:23 GMT
Even now, they seem more intent on pursuing claims than thinking about why they want to drive into the ground the very outlets that can spread their music far and wide and bring in more recognition and royalties.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 11, 2018 10:41:09 GMT
Too many lawyers and the litigious instinct of the US. No ability to ask future questions
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 11, 2018 20:27:05 GMT
Listening to Jonny Lang - Wander this world on YouTube. First ever listen - sounds good to me - 44KHz 24 bit. Don't remember if these are good numbers. How does Spotty compare to that ?
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Post by Chris on Jan 11, 2018 22:04:28 GMT
I've a couple of Spotify accounts and I also use Tidal hifi. I think Tidal SQ is slightly better.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 12, 2018 7:49:28 GMT
I haven't been convinced by Tidal so far. The SQ seems contrived and lacks welly. Also the range of music and interface are not so good.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 12, 2018 7:51:35 GMT
How does Spotty compare to that ? The proof is in the listening, not the numbers. I'll have a listen tonight.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 12, 2018 10:46:27 GMT
Listening to Jan Hammer - Melodies on YT. Same numbers. Slightly muffled. Wasn't on Spotty last time I looked.
Trying to get my brain around 80-90% of everything being *there* on Spotty and the hunter gatherer instinct of finding CDs on Ebay and Amazon, as well as the change in listening habits. Not sure how I would choose and queue.
In a Spotty only world how do you choose, queue and listen ?
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Post by John on Jan 12, 2018 10:58:01 GMT
I presume you are using Spotify connect Changing albums is basically click and play You can also create playlist It also has Discover weekly which recommends music you can play and then save what you like You can create your own playlist which can be fun
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 12, 2018 11:10:11 GMT
Currently using Spotty free.
Having them arise after building my library has thrown a metaphorical spanner in my brain. Adding to my reel to reel and LP collection was more of the same. CDs were similar with holes plugged and duplicates of tapes and LPs also easy
Is Discover based on what you have listened to ?
Playlists I could make up one artists complete history - if they have it of course
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Post by John on Jan 12, 2018 11:36:00 GMT
At some point you have to move to Spotify premium no adds and better sound quality. Using connect gives you access to a gigantic resource from the comfort of your chair Yes discover weekly is based on your listening habits Hopefully Martin visit soon to guide you through this if not I come around and talk you through it
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Post by MartinT on Jan 12, 2018 11:58:40 GMT
Listening to Jan Hammer - Melodies on YT. Same numbers. Slightly muffled. Wasn't on Spotty last time I looked.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 12, 2018 12:00:44 GMT
I presume you are using Spotify connect Mike can't until he gets a Premium account. That's the way to use Spotify, from its own interface with Volumio being the Spotify Connect device. I have cajoled....!
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 12, 2018 15:27:43 GMT
No rush still listening through music I have never heard on the main system. Only about 800 to go that have never been on it then about 1800 that have never been on the system at this level.
Nice to see they have that Jan Hammer album now. Same lineup as Oh Yeah! and almost as good
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 13, 2018 11:30:14 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Jan 13, 2018 11:54:02 GMT
I love the service. I don't have to love the company.
I'm sure that asking the likes of Google what their product is would be equally enlightening.
It seems that no company wants to be seen as providing a service these days. They want to call it something tangible when it isn't.
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 13, 2018 13:31:55 GMT
I have severe problems with a service provider that disassociates itself from its actual product, in this case music. To quote the Huffington Post ...
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Post by Tim on Jan 14, 2018 12:11:13 GMT
I have severe problems with a service provider that disassociates itself from its actual product, in this case music. I'm starting to question my loyalty to the service, the redacted Huffington Post article by Blake Morgan has certainly made me ponder. If they continue along their current course, I may well cancel my subscription as I don't agree with a lot they are doing and Blake's account of that meeting isn't good at all. Hugely disappointing actually, but then situation normal really from a corporate, so I don't know why I'm surprised.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 14, 2018 12:45:38 GMT
If we got upset at all the antics of the Record Companies, there would be little music to buy.
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Post by Tim on Jan 14, 2018 13:44:29 GMT
That's a very 'head in the sand' response Martin. I agree some record companies could/should do more, but there are a lot of very good record companies too - that catch all response doesn't hold water with me.
At the moment Spotify seems to be doing jack shit for musicians, except making a profit for themselves - the arrogant response that Spotify is the product is a typical one from a corporate suit. No A&R, no support, nothing, just take the money whilst giving the bare minimum back to support what actually makes their service work - that's bitten bigger than Spotify in the arse before. To be perfectly honest I would applaud the musicians if they all said fuck you and withdrew their music. There could be a tide of change coming and I know who I'm going to be behind. I declined to take them up on their recent offer of a year's premium for £99.00, believing it not entirely impossible that they might implode.
This at the end of the article by Blake Morgan is a very salient point;
"It’s about music. It’s about the people who love to listen to it, and the people who love to make it. That connection between music lover and music maker is primal and unbreakable. Take all the music off Spotify and no one will show brand-loyalty by sitting and staring at their silent logo"
I would be sad to see Spotify go, but would also have no sympathy as their demise would be their own doing. I doubt Daniel Ek would care though, with nearly a billion dollars in the bank. It needs more artists like Taylor Swift to continue making life difficult for them and I say you go girl. They have a bumpy year ahead I reckon.
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