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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jul 12, 2014 9:16:52 GMT
Beautiful. ( Jerry's pic)
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2014 9:23:51 GMT
Once upon a time the BBC were renowned for making groundbreaking and occasionally award winning, nine or ten part documentary series as a matter of course, the last example of which was probably one of Dr Brian Cox's series on space. Recently though the trend has veered towards the production of paired down, three part mini-series, the latest example of which is The Men Who Made Us Spend. Is this perhaps a sign of BBC cutbacks in action? Actually, since the BBC moved the bulk of its operation to Salford I've noted a steady decline in production values and standards across the board. Not that I am suggesting that the Manchester conurbation is responsible, rather that the BBC have over-stretched themselves financially in their haste to move out of London.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 9:46:29 GMT
Once upon a time the BBC were renowned for making groundbreaking and occasionally award winning, nine or ten part documentary series as a matter of course, the last example of which was probably one of Dr Brian Cox's series on space. Recently though the trend has veered towards the production of paired down, three part mini-series, the latest example of which is The Men Who Made Us Spend. Is this perhaps a sign of BBC cutbacks in action? Actually, since the BBC moved the bulk of its operation to Salford I've noted a steady decline in production values and standards across the board. Not that I am suggesting that the Manchester conurbation is responsible, rather that the BBC have over-stretched themselves financially in their haste to move out of London. Dave, I'm not sure what the cause of the BBC's decline is, I suspect it has something to do with their proliferation of channels, and the lack of any quality leadership at the top. As to "cuts", I'm not aware of any evidence that they have experienced cuts in their income? Yes, they massively overspent on the relocation to Salford and the redevelopment of Broadcasting House in London, but that is a drop in the ocean of their £3.6bn pa licence fee income plus overseas earnings from Top Gear etc.. They can still afford to send 300 staff to Glastonbury so they can't be all that hard up. Lawrence |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 9:53:02 GMT
My only access to BBC material is now via YouTube and we don't have a TV at all. I do sometimes wonder if its not just part of the old man's syndrome. "Back in my day etc etc" although quite a few of the more recent progs seem ill researched and rather shallow to me.
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2014 10:21:46 GMT
Once upon a time the BBC were renowned for making groundbreaking and occasionally award winning, nine or ten part documentary series as a matter of course, the last example of which was probably one of Dr Brian Cox's series on space. Recently though the trend has veered towards the production of paired down, three part mini-series, the latest example of which is The Men Who Made Us Spend. Is this perhaps a sign of BBC cutbacks in action? Actually, since the BBC moved the bulk of its operation to Salford I've noted a steady decline in production values and standards across the board. Not that I am suggesting that the Manchester conurbation is responsible, rather that the BBC have over-stretched themselves financially in their haste to move out of London. Dave, I'm not sure what the cause of the BBC's decline is, I suspect it has something to do with their proliferation of channels, and the lack of any quality leadership at the top. As to "cuts", I'm not aware of any evidence that they have experienced cuts in their income? Yes, they massively overspent on the relocation to Salford and the redevelopment of Broadcasting House in London, but that is a drop in the ocean of their £3.6bn pa licence fee income plus overseas earnings from Top Gear etc.. They can still afford to send 300 staff to Glastonbury so they can't be all that hard up.Lawrence In that case then the situation may be more serious than I realised, or maybe I am just getting old... lol |
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Post by Chris on Jul 12, 2014 18:38:13 GMT
You would think with all this exciting stuff going on program makers would be clamboring to make a decent program!! There must be loads of good footage and there's tons of NEW information coming through which I'm sure they could do plenty with.
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2014 18:49:17 GMT
At least the beebs flagship Horizon series hasn't suffered as yet, they are usually a good watch. I wish the BBC would open up the Horizon archives and spool them onto iPlayer as there are some classic episodes from the past which I'd really enjoy seeing again.
Does anyone remember CH4's competitor to Horizon, Equinox? I believe it last aired in the early '90's
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 18:54:40 GMT
Does anyone remember CH4's competitor to Horizon, Equinox? I believe it last aired in the early '90's There are a few episodes on YouTube. Just did a search for Equinox Channel 4. |
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2014 19:06:31 GMT
I'll have a look later, thanks for that  |
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Post by Chris on Jul 12, 2014 19:08:45 GMT
Equinox was excellent.
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2014 19:15:11 GMT
The title sequence was short and sweet but very cool...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 19:47:24 GMT
Just watched the one about bike making. Extremely interesting to see the hand made ones versus the factory jobs. There is another about the Wankel engine that looks good too.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 12, 2014 22:32:23 GMT
Has anyone come up with a good name for a planet yet? I already have one: Mars. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 1:00:01 GMT
Has anyone come up with a good name for a planet yet? I already have one: Mars. Bars? |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 13, 2014 12:59:34 GMT
Heh, heh! Look at the derivation of my name.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 13, 2014 17:22:57 GMT
Beautiful. ( Jerry's pic) yep, isn't it.
Here's one of the most famous pics to come from Hubble - I call it God's lava lamp 
You don't get an idea of scale from the photo - but the left pillar is 4 light years long. 
And here they are in the context of the larger nebula of which they are a small part ...
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Post by Chris on Jul 13, 2014 19:34:55 GMT
Stunning pics Jandl100 and I agree about the sense of scale.
Completely unimaginable to me.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 13, 2014 19:48:12 GMT
Sometimes the scale of things out there is beyond jaw-dropping.
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jul 13, 2014 20:15:08 GMT
Yes, seen those before, they are stunning. The scale is unimaginable.
Reminds me of Zaphod undergoing the Total Perspective Vortex.
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Post by hobnob on Jul 13, 2014 20:15:55 GMT
It always blows me away when I see how small the earth is in relation to the sun, then I see how small our sun is compared to massive stars. That's before you start to figure the size of galaxies containing billions of stars. This link has some great pics of relative scale. They aren't new but always worth looking at as a reminder: sci.gallaudet.edu/Science/relativesizes.html |
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