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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 15:24:39 GMT
I didn't suggest it. I just added a bit more information on a previous post.
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 13, 2016 16:45:42 GMT
If you aren't a crazed box swapper like me, I honestly believe it's all the amp you would ever need! |
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Post by Sovereign on Oct 13, 2016 18:03:33 GMT
Apart from the things I have suggested to you privately Jules, have you thought of trying an NVA amp? To be honest Chris I haven't - purely on the basis that I'm not sure how it would get on with the valve pre. That said, I do like NVA amps a lot - I used to have a 50W NVA integrated and it was a superb performer. You would need confirmation of this from NVA but I used to run NVA amps from a Croft valve preamp to great affect, the mark2 stuff that is sold now has big heat sinks which should be able to cope with using an active preamp again this advice would need to qualified with NVA |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 18:51:55 GMT
I’ve just acquired a valve pre-amp that I wasn’t planning on buying but couldn’t resist … Anyway, the problem is that I don’t have a power amp to go with it so would welcome some suggestions as to what to buy. Why not buy an Intergrated amp or does the Amplifiier sections have to be split into million of boxes like Hi-Fi peeps feel they must do?  |
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Post by orbscure on Oct 13, 2016 19:57:14 GMT
I ran a Croft Micro 25 Basic pre with a pair of NVA A40 MK2 monoblocks and they worked very well indeed... you just need to be careful which cable you use, especially if you use anything which is twisted together...  |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 13, 2016 20:23:28 GMT
you especially need the headroom with the kind of dynamics you get in classical orchestral. I keep telling people that to puzzled expressions. Classical is far more demanding of dynamic linearity and, especially, headroom on peaks. An amp which can handle rock with aplomb can be reduced to tears on big orchestral or, especially, choral music. |
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Post by pinkie on Oct 14, 2016 5:12:21 GMT
I didn't suggest it. I just added a bit more information on a previous post. Sorry. Rushing. Collected my parents from toulouse and they were more frail than anticipated. I had been about to suggest a decent 405-2 until I rtfq carefully |
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 14, 2016 6:29:01 GMT
you especially need the headroom with the kind of dynamics you get in classical orchestral. I keep telling people that to puzzled expressions. Classical is far more demanding of dynamic linearity and, especially, headroom on peaks. An amp which can handle rock with aplomb can be reduced to tears raucous muddled squealing on big orchestral or, especially, choral music. Corrected that for you, Martin.  -- I still think 100wpc is an unnecessarily high lower limit for Tannoy DCs, though. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 14, 2016 6:35:36 GMT
It's about current delivery rather than measured power. One 100W amp is not necessarily as powerful as another in real-world driving.
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 14, 2016 6:42:24 GMT
Very true - I have had some remarkably wimpy 100W monoblocks and some amazingly gutsy 50 watters!
Jules just needs to choose the right 50 watters!
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Post by kettlechips on Oct 14, 2016 10:58:58 GMT
I didn't suggest it. I just added a bit more information on a previous post. Sorry. Rushing. Collected my parents from toulouse and they were more frail than anticipated. I had been about to suggest a decent 405-2 until I rtfq carefully A little late to this thread, but I was thinking a good Quad 606-2 or 707, or 909 all available in silver, all small(ish) footprint. I find quads work well with valve pre amps and they have plenty of authority. I'm running a 520f with a valve preamp at the moment and it sounds pretty good to me. |
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 14, 2016 12:39:33 GMT
Better to have too much than not enough, I reckon.
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Post by pinkie on Oct 14, 2016 13:41:43 GMT
Better to have too much than not enough, I reckon. Not necessarily - especially if you have ESL speakers . If you are going to risk having too much power (not hard) then you need good protection circuitry But there is nothing worse than a clipping amp |
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 14, 2016 14:39:20 GMT
If you aren't a crazed box swapper like me, I honestly believe it's all the amp you would ever need! I'm trying Jerry! |
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 14, 2016 14:42:01 GMT
I keep telling people that to puzzled expressions. Classical is far more demanding of dynamic linearity and, especially, headroom on peaks. An amp which can handle rock with aplomb can be reduced to tears raucous muddled squealing on big orchestral or, especially, choral music. Corrected that for you, Martin. -- I still think 100wpc is an unnecessarily high lower limit for Tannoy DCs, though. Trust me on this one Jerry - they need much more power / current than you might think to handle big orchestral works - I've had several lesser powered amps that haven't cut it in this regard .. |
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 14, 2016 14:44:40 GMT
Sorry. Rushing. Collected my parents from toulouse and they were more frail than anticipated. I had been about to suggest a decent 405-2 until I rtfq carefully A little late to this thread, but I was thinking a good Quad 606-2 or 707, or 909 all available in silver, all small(ish) footprint. I find quads work well with valve pre amps and they have plenty of authority. I'm running a 520f with a valve preamp at the moment and it sounds pretty good to me. Well I have a big soft spot for the 405-2 - it used to work very well with an Audio Note valve preamp, but I was using different speakers at the time ... I expect I will try one again at some point but it's a question of finding a well-fettled one. I tried a 909 a few years back and didn't get on with it at all - I find it very 'forward' compared to the 405-2, but again, was using different partnering equipment. |
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 14, 2016 14:45:17 GMT
It's about current delivery rather than measured power. One 100W amp is not necessarily as powerful as another in real-world driving. Absolutely - I was just thinking of a rough guide ... |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 14, 2016 14:49:51 GMT
...then look at instantaneous current delivery (if specified) or a near-doubling of power into 4 ohms compared with 8 ohms as indicators.
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 15, 2016 12:59:02 GMT
I'm getting an urge to try another Quad 405-2, preferably upgraded ...
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Post by Sovereign on Oct 15, 2016 14:22:34 GMT
I'm getting an urge to try another Quad 405-2, preferably upgraded ... Believe it or not I've never heard any quad equipment, I would like to compare it one day. |
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