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Post by DarrenHW on Aug 4, 2015 7:37:32 GMT
In October 2013, I bought an SL1200 with the view to modifying it, little did I realise then I’d spend the next 2 years trying to put a system together. It’s taken some time but I feel now that I have built up a collection of boxes that I’m happy to call my first HiFi. This has taken me so long primarily as I don’t have a huge amount of free time for HiFi but also because most of my equipment is vintage so I’ve had to wait for stuff to come up for sale at the right price. With the exception of the Oppo and the Nakamichi everything’s awaiting further servicing or modding so I thought I’d start a blog to document the (hopeful) evolution. Starting at the top a 1966 Garrard 401 theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?33153-Help!-I-ve-just-bought-a-Garrard-401!&highlight=garrard . I’ve spent maybe £100 servicing it and £35 on the CTC Thrust base www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-401-Stainless-Thrust-base-for-Garrard-401-Transcription-Turntable-/271921705773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f4fcbf32d. I also tried the XTC Thrust bearing but ultimately preferred the CTC, I felt both were quieter than the stock thrust pad but the XTC maybe had too little drag, the CTC I think sounds more like the original thrust pad with the advantage of reduced noise and less oil leakage. Jobs for the future include having the idler dressed and reinstalled with a new bearing, rewiring, having a second bearing serviced, possibly repainting and eventually sticking the face plate back down! The arm is a Hadcock GH228 theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?37334-Hadcock-Arm-Mods&highlight=garrard. I’ve replaced the arm tube with a Stainless Steel tube (~£5) to bring it to 242 spec. It currently has either a Shure M95HE or AT440MLa installed but I’m looking for a replacement cartridge at the moment. Depending on the choice of cartridge I can change the arm tube with relative ease to match the mass of the arm with the cartridge. The plinth is still a work in process, the top plinth is a SlateDeck, the lower plinth is a piece of 40mm Italian slate I had cut to size and the feet came from Vic at TransFi www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HIGH-QUALITY-TURNTABLE-FEET-ISOLATION-SPIKES-SHOES-/181674420365?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a4ca3a88d. It sits on a Target wall shelf with Soundcare Superspikes under an off cut of Oak block board. I think I need to decouple the TT from the shelf as the shelf is pretty well coupled to the wall and any vibration through the wall is transferred through the stylus. I’ve not heard another Garrard so I have nothing to compare the slate plinth to but I really like what slate does especially when used with timber. Jobs for the future include, finalising the arm board material / design, having a new 40mm top plinth cut and decoupling from the wall shelf. Next up the Croft PreAmp with Phono. This is a recent arrival and I still need to find out whether it’s a Micro 2 or a Super Micro 2. Either way its a Croft, its utilitarian, has valves in it and I love it, it was the missing link in my analogue chain and it was only when I plugged this in I thought everything in my system clicked. I don’t know what the future holds for the Croft whether it’s worth servicing / modding or whether money would be better spent on a new unit, either way for now I’m just enjoying it. Quad 405 Mono-Blocks theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?34047-Quad-405-servicing-modding-advice . I think for the price a Quad 405 can be bought for they’re an excellent bargain, servicing cost was approximately £80 per amp with the majority of that cost being supply caps and speaker protection. I only have one board installed per enclosure and will endeavor to modify the other boards to DCD 3 in the coming months (first attempt was a failure), try them with bridged with 2 boards and continue to search for another with a bronze heat sink. Oppo 105D. This is a jack of all trades and despite being the most expensive item in the rack, I do consider it to be quite a bargain. Being a single unit it negates the need for many expensive wires, an MS Klotz interconnect per amplified channel, 1 x Audioquest Pearl HDMI (for Sky), 1 x cheap HDMI (to TV) and a network cable is all that I have connected. From a HiFi perpective it’s a CD/SACD/HDCD/DVD-A/BD-A/FBA player, it has twin Sabre DAC’s, one 7 channel (which feed the Nakamichi) and one 2 channel which line out to the Croft. I use it as a pre into the Nak for AV duties and was using it as a pre into the Quad’s until the Croft arrived. The Croft makes far nicer music than the Oppo, it would seem after plugging in a Tisbury the other day that maybe the digital volume control lets the Oppo down. From an AV perspective it’s a competent processor. I run Sky through it and this means I can use the internal DAC for audio and apply Darbee Visual Presence to the picture, this really does make a positive difference to Sky’s broadcast material and well worth the trade off for the occasional artefact. For BD’s I think it’s amazing as I said earlier the pre amp could be bettered but at this stage I’m happy with it as a pre amp for the Nakamichi. Nakamichi AVP-1. If the Oppo’s “quite a bargain” then this was the sale of the century. For £400 I have absolutely no complaints with this amp. I had hoped this would replace the Quads to make a more streamlined system but ultimately I prefer the sound of the Quads for music so it will be staying in its AV role. I feel its strengths lend themselves more to AV than music, it’s quite neutral and transparent with a good dose of power but for me lacks the warmth of the Quads. Celestion Ditton 44’s. I bought these after hearing a pair of 66’s, I love what the 66’s do but I was looking for a more wallet friendly alternative and along came a pair of 44’s. I’ve put ~£100 into them, replacing the HF2000’s with SEAS 19TFF1’s, rewiring, recapping and lightly modifying the crossover. At one stage I had a pair of 44’s for front and a pair for rear speakers, I crossed them over to the sub at 40Hz and loved what they did with films. I think they make excellent AV speakers and would quite happily have them all the way round but unfortunately due to a room move around that’s no longer possible and so the quest for speakers continues. Mains. A visit from a good friend involving mains cables and cable management convinced me there would be benefits to installing a dedicated ring main. I’m in rented accommodation so limited to what I could do, my chosen solution was to install a dedicated 4mm ring main. I went with 4mm as it was the largest I could back feed into the consumer unit and went for a ring due to the fact that I couldn’t use larger cable. Behind the rack I have this bank of MK un-switched sockets, many more sockets than I need but I wanted the redundancy as at the time I installed this boxes were going in an out on an almost weekly basis. Once everything is finalised I’ll remove all but two of the redundant sockets. I’m sure there are better solutions but all in this cost me ~£100 and I’d say it’s probably the best ~£100 I’ve spent on the system as a whole. Bias Lighting, is provided by a 6500K LED strip light costing ~£10 (delivered) from eBay (this was a nightmare to photograph and is not really reflective of how it looks in real life). To achieve the right level of luminescence I used insulation tape to cover LED’s until I had the right balance. No it may not be as close as possible to CIE D65, nor is it particularly user friendly to adjust the brightness but at ~£10 it’s VFM is hard to beat. Why “K-Billy’s Super Sounds of the 70’s”? K-Billy is the DJ in Quentin Tarantino’s Reservoir Dog’s played by Steven Wright: I thought this was an appropriate title as my system is a combination of brand new AV and HiFi from the 70’s (admittedly my 401 was born in 1966 but they were still in production in the 70’s) and thought referencing this would show a link between music and movies. I’m a big fan of Tarantino soundtracks, growing up in rural Mid Wales in the 90’s didn’t provide the easiest gateway to new (to me) music. Tarantino’s soundtracks introduced me to a number of artists I would otherwise not have heard and possibly shaped my music taste for the future.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2015 7:56:55 GMT
Great start, Darren. I was glad to see the row of unswitched sockets in the later photo as that dangling 4-way in the first photo is an eyesore.
Good to see how such a different system has developed. You mentioned a 1200 at first but then show a 401 in your photos. What happened to the 1200?
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Post by DarrenHW on Aug 4, 2015 8:12:51 GMT
Great start, Darren. I was glad to see the row of unswitched sockets in the later photo as that dangling 4-way in the first photo is an eyesore. Thanks Martin, the extension to the TV and other cabling is a consequence of the recent reshuffle. This will be tidied up with trunking and a longer power cable installed plugged directly into the wall (not the HiFi ring main). I live in a bungalow and have sockets in the roof space above so will be quite simple but I'm reluctant to go rolling around in the insulation in the loft until the weather cools down a little. The now redundant holes in the walls will also be filled and repainted, bit of a work in progress at the moment. Good to see how such a different system has developed. You mentioned a 1200 at first but then show a 401 in your photos. What happened to the 1200? Oh yes the Techie, I should have covered that, this is what I did with it: I was very happy with how it sounded, then the Garrard arrived. I preferred (despite not wanting to) the sound of the Garrard and not being into electronics it's simplicity was appealing so I sold the Techie.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2015 10:19:34 GMT
Nice, what with the Funk platter and arm and I can see that you added some regulation internally and a Mike New bearing. Someone bought a good deck off you!
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Post by DarrenHW on Aug 4, 2015 11:23:53 GMT
There are times when I regret selling it, it was certainly more convenient and quieter than the 401! If I'd have changed anything it would have been the arm. It was the first after market arm I ever had and thought it a notable step up from the stock Techie arm but it was easily bettered by the Hadcock IMHO.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2015 12:16:32 GMT
I found that the Technics needs a heavyweight arm like the popular Jelco 750D (but not an SME). A Zeta would be great as is my Dynavector. Lovely as the Hadcock is, I can't see it working as well on a Technics.
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Post by DarrenHW on Aug 4, 2015 12:42:30 GMT
I agree, if I were to go down the Technics route again I'd go for a Jelco. I was more the making a comparison between the FX-1200 and the Hadcock, interesting what you say about the Technics needing a heavier arm.
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Post by John on Aug 4, 2015 15:28:48 GMT
Nice start on the blog You can take the Oppo further with a external DAC something like the Caiman mk2 works well with it. Also worth trying a pen drive and exploring files with it. The 401 a nice deck I think with the 1200 it very capable, but needs a lot of investment to get it to similar to Martins tt level. Also they have a different sonic qualities and you might prefer the 401
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Post by DarrenHW on Aug 4, 2015 16:39:01 GMT
Thanks John. I will try a RasPi at some point see how the Oppo fares up although it's already been beaten as a pre, if it's beaten as a DAC all of a sudden it's not such a bargain. It was the presentation of the 401 that made me decide to sell the 1200, even more so now it's in the slate plinth.
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Post by DarrenHW on Oct 19, 2015 8:47:53 GMT
Changes to the system lately have concentrated on placement and wiring. The power and data cables for the TV have been routed through the roof space and tidied up with conduit. Great start, Darren. I was glad to see the row of unswitched sockets in the later photo as that dangling 4-way in the first photo is an eyesore. Hopefully it passes inspection now Mr.T?
The power cable is a DIY effort constructed with 2 x 1.5mm CY cable (shield connected at plug only), MK ToughPlug, Silver plated figure 8, all cleaned and treated with DeOxit. The HDMI cable is an 8m AudioQuest Pearl, which was a significant improvement over the cheap 5m HDMI cable I had temporarily hooked the TV up with. I also have the TV plugged in through a mains filter which provides a significant improvement, mains filtering is something I will be looking into in the future. As the advice I received on OB's was that what I was trying to achieve would be unlikely to work in the room I have turned my attention back to the Celestions. I have moved the 44's further apart and closer to the rear wall which in itself made the speakers integrate better into the room, however changing the stands has been a revelation. I was using Atacama SL400i stands 2/3 filled with kiln dried sand but having picked up a few pairs of stands over the last few months I gave them all a go to see what difference, if any they would make. I've settled on a pair of "Foundation" branded stands, they're 600mm and constructed from thick walled box section. Initially I'd discounted these stands as being too tall but after reading the (albeit brief) "Tweeting at altitude" thread I realised I had nothing to lose. The difference from lifting the 44's 200mm took me very much by surprise, the sound from the speakers is far less in your face and the integration is so much better, resulting in a better centre image and a bigger soundstage. There has been a huge improvement in the bass (which I put down to the construction of the stands?), it is far less bloated, has a lot more detail and subsequently allowed me to move the speakers closer to the rear wall and further utilise the reinforcement. As testament to my ignorance I really didn't expect stands to make such a big difference, to think I've been tripping over these stands for the last couple of months . I now have a pair of Beovox 5700's in place as surround speakers. These use the Celestion MD500 and HF2000 drivers with a Phillips 10" bass and ABR and are suitable for horizontal mounting (stock image, mine are nowhere near as pretty): I plan on bastardising these, removing the MD500 and swapping it for the D5 mid range in the 44's and replacing the HF2000's with SEAS 19TFF1, then they will be mounted horizontally either on the wall above the door way or ceiling mounted, I'm waiting on new inductors to arrive then I can begin work on this. The 5700 along with the rear mounted Ditton 11's integrate very well and the 5700 go down to ~50Hz which is where I cross them over to the sub. Talking about the sub, it is now behind the seating: To do this I knocked up a 20m lead made from Van Damme XKE, this has worked very well. There is far less room interaction in the bass, the room is now less "flooded" with bass which actually helps the surround illusion, more lower volume detail can be heard from the other speakers which really improves the sound stage. Lower frequencies also have far more impact and are more felt than heard. The downside, is that at times it is obvious that the sub's behind you. This only happens occasionally when watching a film but is far more detectable when listening to 2 channel music. I no longer use the sub when listening to music so this is a compromise I'm happy to make. Things are moving forward, just slowly. Once I have the new cross over components I'll be able to work on and mount the 5700's which will mean I'll be able to redecorate and put the rest of the furniture back in the lounge.
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Post by zippy on Oct 19, 2015 9:38:30 GMT
You must have stronger walls than I have to hold that turntable !
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Post by DarrenHW on Oct 19, 2015 9:49:17 GMT
Yes, it's quite a weight with both pieces of slate. All walls are solid concrete brick and the shelf is fixed with 100mm Thunder Bolts, I was more concerned with deflection of the shelf than the fixing, but it seems happy enough.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 19, 2015 11:48:37 GMT
Nice work, Darren.
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Post by DarrenHW on Oct 19, 2015 14:25:41 GMT
Thanks Martin . André!!!! I didn't think you were posting any more, last time I spoke to you on here you were f307. However having read your post I started to put the clues together "Quad" orange motor, Tandberg's and calling me Daz so I clicked on your profile and low and behold f307 . How come Nexus-6, Blade Runner fan? By pure coincidence I watched Blade Runner the other night and it was the first time I actually enjoyed Vangelis' score, testament to how things are progressing. As to the Tandbergs, as amazing as they look, I've made my bed! I don't plan on buying another pair of speakers in the near future, the last lot of cross over components should be arriving soon and at that point I want to call it a day with the Celestions in this room, I've too many other projects. I do want to move on to Open Baffles but that won't be until I move. Glad your still frequenting the forums, I feared you'd sold everything off and called it a day, I'm very happy you haven't.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 19, 2015 14:34:55 GMT
By pure coincidence I watched Blade Runner the other night and it was the first time I actually enjoyed Vangelis' score, testament to how things are progressing. That Vangelis score is particularly excellent, although he's never written a bad one.
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Post by DarrenHW on Oct 19, 2015 14:50:49 GMT
A school friend of mine was a fan of the 1492 score, used to subject me to it at every available opportunity but I was more into discovering classic (1970's) rock at the time. Now you mention it, I've never seen the film, added to my watch list!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 16:15:24 GMT
André!!!! I didn't think you were posting any more, last time I spoke to you on here you were f307. However having read your post I started to put the clues together "Quad" orange motor, Tandberg's and calling me Daz so I clicked on your profile and low and behold f307 . How come Nexus-6, Blade Runner fan? By pure coincidence I watched Blade Runner the other night and it was the first time I actually enjoyed Vangelis' score, testament to how things are progressing. Glad your still frequenting the forums, I feared you'd sold everything off and called it a day, I'm very happy you haven't. Hi Daz You are very close with the Blade Runner but im afraid Nexus 6 are the Androids from Philip K.Dick's 1968 novel 'Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep' I have sold everything off & called it a day. I kept my A&R Cambridge 'A60' Amp & Michell 'Focus One'/SME 3009' Turntable i boiught in the early 80's. to play my records on.. I don't do Hi-Fi anymore. I pop on here to bore every with my Choice of tunes.. That's about it, i don't visit anymore forums at all. These days im more interested on my original hobby Synthesizers.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 19, 2015 16:41:08 GMT
You are very close with the Blade Runner but im afraid Nexus 6 are the Androids from Philip K.Dick's 1968 novel 'Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep' Yes, but Blade Runner is based on Dick's novel and Nexus 6 is mentioned in the film, too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 16:44:16 GMT
Yep runner was based on that novel
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