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Post by John on May 17, 2015 4:46:38 GMT
Steve a friend is using the Behringer but the 6000 and in his system it goes up to 250 clean I think you cut off around 350 so might be worth a try
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Post by MikeMusic on May 17, 2015 11:00:44 GMT
My system has been upgraded up to the speaker leads, which now have better Z plugs. Those alone were an improvement Supports have been the surprise for me. The RDC cones are very good value.
What has consistently surprised is the improvements always coming through. Until recently Now I find the limiting factor is the engineering and production of the original album. Some continue to improve, others have reached their ceiling
New speakers will only improve those albums that were made well.
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 17, 2015 11:41:07 GMT
What's the difference? SLAM! I love it! I'm having slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam - and slam! Digging out my Boy's Own Book Of Hi-Fi Superlatives 1976 I found this: Slam: pertaining to bass speed & control. Punch: pertaining to bass transient attack. Grunt: pertaining to bass extension capability. I remember when a mate changed from Wharfedale Linton XP2s to Heybrook HB2s and being taken aback by bass slam on The Wall and Joan Armatrading's Me Myself I using a Nad 3020 and Thorens 160/Hadcock.
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Post by roy on May 18, 2015 0:13:28 GMT
1050 watts up the jacksie
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Post by MartinT on May 18, 2015 3:54:30 GMT
LOL - that's the way to do it!
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Post by boggit on May 18, 2015 6:22:05 GMT
I find transmission Line speakers have superb bass for there given size. Also Damping factor, ie the ability of the amp to boss the speaker. An amp needs plenty of PSU for this large transformer and lots of capacitance for those high current moments.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 11:25:29 GMT
Quality untainted source, an amplifier that can deliver the signal reproduction with switching times sub 30ns, high current delivery, ultra stiff source and correctly designed speakers.
You can also achieve this with 3W of SET and 108dB+ horns this with improve your leading edge attack with out question, however whether the the system can also reproduce the total note decay and sustain is another matter
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Post by MartinT on May 18, 2015 12:18:06 GMT
No argument with any of that.
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Post by danielquinn on May 18, 2015 13:06:56 GMT
Such Ludicrous Ambivalent Meanderings .
Hifi's are electrical chains , it is ludicrous to suggest that a single product as set in stone characteristics universally applicable in time and space , independent of the chain .
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Post by dantheman91 on May 18, 2015 13:41:34 GMT
Space , Amplification , Music , Wattage , Ohms.........Its a tricky one this one.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 16:38:23 GMT
Such Ludicrous Ambivalent Meanderings . Hifi's are electrical chains , it is ludicrous to suggest that a single product as set in stone characteristics universally applicable in time and space , independent of the chain . Indeed DQ other discriptive terms such as:- Uber cock, bell end, ring-piece, large chip on shoulder, billy non mates, diatribal twaddle, upended logic, all these words can be set in stone, it just takes a little longer to form, say around 100 million years or so this should produce satisfactory results. Are you personally universally set in the space time continuum? or just a set of non random structured atoms merely travelling through the non linear passage of time? Conversely the stamping of your staunch views could be an attempt to bring an un harmonious state to TAS. Me I just feel you are a playful little tyke board on a non eventful Monday afternoon
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Post by danielquinn on May 18, 2015 17:27:07 GMT
And I think you sell overpriced jewlerry to idiots and i suspect that as more to do with your fetishistic continual ad homien of me.
Me I'm just a lawnmower you can tell by the way i walk.
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Post by John on May 18, 2015 17:32:25 GMT
Any further comments that is personal maybe subject to moderation
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 18:23:20 GMT
DQ Why are you so defensive in relation to a smattering of playful banter? you mischievous scamp of physdo accusations I suspect your assumptions on the cognitive abilities of music lovers is a little disparaging, however you are entitled to have these opinions as we do live a free speech society. For example the OP is termed what gives a speaker slam, let us examine this in greater detail DQ I suspect the 'idiots' may take the term a little more involved that your staunch dismissive retorts may indicate. Currently this evening I putting a fleshly constructed 'Slam-o-meter' through its paces, it generates it results through a quasi soft logic algorithm which calculates total Slam in units Quinis (or Q factor) This is deduced by measuring total air mass movement (swept volume of one complete driver sinusoidal movement ), cone excursion, emf used to generate a single cone travel, room air displacement over a given distance and the time taken to make a full cycle, diameter of driver etc. All this is determined in nanoseconds and the 'Q' factor displayed via a suitable visual monitor. A logarithmically set of indexes is used to produce a sliding scale form 0 to 10. 0 being absolute zero Quin with no detectable movement and 10 Q's being the equivalent of a 3 tonne wrecking ball being slammed into a side of a large office block. thus far this after noon a Q factor of 3.7 has been achieved with 3 Marshall 4 by 4 cabinets all with an extra driver stage in operation. Mighty invigorating it was too This far today, the league table stands as 3.7Q's What is your Q factor gents?
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 18, 2015 21:00:44 GMT
I was more than chuffed to get the no. 11 led to light on mine - albeit short-lived - with me Amstrad and Linn Kans (MK Is) playing me Sound Effects Vol. 12: "Industrial Jack Hammers Of The 1950s" - a particular favourite.
Sadly, it was a bit too much for the Amstrad, which, despite putting on a valiant show, rent itself asunder in quite an impressive and spectacular self-sacrificing fashion that even Lord Sugar would have been proud of, I think. Still smouldering in the corner as I write. That, and the speaker stand spikes buried into the concrete floor, has elevated my respect for the Amstrad marquee.
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Post by MartinT on May 18, 2015 22:23:26 GMT
Amazing what you get from cheap 'C' grade components, shitty build quality, no QC and "stack 'em high" supermarket sales approach.
Yes, shitty products. From their so-called hi-fi to their computers, everything AMS touched was shit.
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Post by naim1425 on May 19, 2015 0:32:41 GMT
naim audios 6x135`s amps(six pack) and naim dbl`s after a couple of minutes you will be playing air guitar and the drums at the same time
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Post by naim1425 on May 19, 2015 0:41:48 GMT
i used to have mus fid mvx a pair of mus fid a370s a pair of acoustic energys aei and a pair of rel stentors now they could move a lott of air and amazing imaging almost 3d lead singer used to come that far out of the sound stage he or she would be sitting next to you.it was unnerving
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 7:48:07 GMT
And I think you sell overpriced jewlerry to idiots and i suspect that as more to do with your fetishistic continual ad homien of me. Me I'm just a lawnmower you can tell by the way i walk. I do think Tony is a bit Paranoid if he thinks your posts will affect his sales. Just to remind people that personal attacks amount to ad hominem. Tony reading your so called humorous comments suggests you may be turning into another Marco. Instant ban elsewhere. And DQ please stop quoting my signature.
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Post by danielquinn on May 19, 2015 8:13:39 GMT
oops apologies , I have just noticed that , Honest .
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