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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 23:20:49 GMT
DQ the man of the moment  Let mequalify the Smps issues that I mentioned It also applies to the Devilet , hypex range of amplifiers as well No evidence the above mentioned amplifiers lack power, dynamics, detail , solidity or life of the sound. They are impressive in many ways without question When end it comes to rendering texture true three dimensional depth, inner dynamics, subtly and layering they are not their greatest strengths all of the above traits imho are essential for genuine musical replay which ever front end you use. the Smps generate a solid sound yet cannot not reproduce the real three dimensional texture there is a big difference. the bottom line however is what you prefer and your ears tell you is right for you |
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Post by danielquinn on Apr 28, 2015 12:07:05 GMT
DQ correcting a typo!  oops i didn't realise it could potentially be a typo as fortuitously it made a correct word . that never happens when i [frequently] make typos. |
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Post by MartinT on May 15, 2015 17:53:52 GMT
The KEF Blade Two is featured in a comprehensive review in this month's Stereophile (June 2015). John Atkinson rather likes them!
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Post by davidf on May 15, 2015 21:31:12 GMT
The KEF Blade Two is featured in a comprehensive review in this month's Stereophile (June 2015). John Atkinson rather likes them! Ooh, I have that available through my Zinio portal - I'll have to go and have a read! |
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Post by MartinT on May 15, 2015 22:07:44 GMT
I'm reading it in Zinio too. Great app!
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Post by davidf on May 17, 2015 0:08:46 GMT
Good review - not much for me to add!
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Post by MartinT on May 17, 2015 22:51:04 GMT
I'll try and have a good listen the next chance I have.
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Post by alaska on May 28, 2015 12:42:51 GMT
Steve Harris also really likes them in his review in this month's HFN. if only I had a bigger room ( and the cash!)
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 16:43:53 GMT
So they claim blades have WAF factor plus great SQ? To me they look hideous. At £20K I think you need some serious big drivers to give you extended bass. Wouldn't surprise me if you got better sound out of one of their big £1K boxes. Specialist speakers can be funny things - rarely heard one that sounded that great as they appear to focus on a narrow aspect of presentation. Cheapish speakers may do a better job in most rooms. I also note the recommended amps for these are all brands which I will politely say are not to my taste.
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Post by alaska on May 28, 2015 18:44:30 GMT
Have you actually heard the Blades ?
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Post by davidf on May 28, 2015 21:27:18 GMT
So they claim blades have WAF factor plus great SQ? To me they look hideous. At £20K I think you need some serious big drivers to give you extended bass. Wouldn't surprise me if you got better sound out of one of their big £1K boxes. Specialist speakers can be funny things - rarely heard one that sounded that great as they appear to focus on a narrow aspect of presentation. Cheapish speakers may do a better job in most rooms. I also note the recommended amps for these are all brands which I will politely say are not to my taste. Aesthetics are always a sticky point, and we all have our preferences. Hideous is a little strong, but if you don't like the looks, there's no way round that. Extended bass can be had via a number of approaches. Yes, the obvious route is large drivers, but smaller drivers can shift as much air when enough are used, and the cabinet/port design can augment that too. If you've ever heard the sort of bass the R500s produce from four small bass drivers, you wouldn't really be surprised when hearing just what KEF have achieved with eight 9" drivers. Of course, the drivers used in the Blades are of a much higher quality, and far more capable. In the average UK room (ie, smaller), yes it is possible to get a 'better sound', as larger speakers with a more extended bass tend to suffer with more room issues (although these are down to the room and not the speaker). Having said that, there is no way their £1,000 R300 loudspeakers can compete with them based on numerous aspects that the Blades are strong in. Speakers that are of a low distortion design tend to sound good with a wide range of amplifiers - I've heard them sound great with Devialet, Rega, Classe, Cyrus, Chord, Electrocompaniet, Moon, Arcam, Bryston, and maybe one or two others that may have escaped me right now. What sort of amplification is to your taste? |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 10:38:16 GMT
So they claim blades have WAF factor plus great SQ? To me they look hideous. At £20K I think you need some serious big drivers to give you extended bass. Wouldn't surprise me if you got better sound out of one of their big £1K boxes. Specialist speakers can be funny things - rarely heard one that sounded that great as they appear to focus on a narrow aspect of presentation. Cheapish speakers may do a better job in most rooms. I also note the recommended amps for these are all brands which I will politely say are not to my taste. Aesthetics are always a sticky point, and we all have our preferences. Hideous is a little strong, but if you don't like the looks, there's no way round that. Extended bass can be had via a number of approaches. Yes, the obvious route is large drivers, but smaller drivers can shift as much air when enough are used, and the cabinet/port design can augment that too. If you've ever heard the sort of bass the R500s produce from four small bass drivers, you wouldn't really be surprised when hearing just what KEF have achieved with eight 9" drivers. Of course, the drivers used in the Blades are of a much higher quality, and far more capable. In the average UK room (ie, smaller), yes it is possible to get a 'better sound', as larger speakers with a more extended bass tend to suffer with more room issues (although these are down to the room and not the speaker). Having said that, there is no way their £1,000 R300 loudspeakers can compete with them based on numerous aspects that the Blades are strong in. Speakers that are of a low distortion design tend to sound good with a wide range of amplifiers - I've heard them sound great with Devialet, Rega, Classe, Cyrus, Chord, Electrocompaniet, Moon, Arcam, Bryston, and maybe one or two others that may have escaped me right now. What sort of amplification is to your taste? Something that lacks transistor type grain but is not overly coloured. Using Albarry monoblocks at present. I do appreciate you can get good bass from multiple drivers but it is surprising how more musical some older designs can be with a single large driver. A single smallish driver in a ported floorstander can be more than adequate for small rooms. |
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Post by danielquinn on May 29, 2015 12:34:35 GMT
Seems to me that multiple small drivers covering large areas of the frequency spectrum no matter how well matched will introduce phase/integration issues .
I had a pair of mission 753 did not like them .
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Post by davidf on May 29, 2015 16:23:46 GMT
Something that lacks transistor type grain but is not overly coloured. Using Albarry monoblocks at present. I do appreciate you can get good bass from multiple drivers but it is surprising how more musical some older designs can be with a single large driver. A single smallish driver in a ported floorstander can be more than adequate for small rooms. I'd say that Devialet, Bryston, Primare, Chord, and Classe are fairly neutral and not overly coloured, but still sound different to each other. All are clear and clean, lacking grain. The Blades have been designed to give clean, clear, low distortion bass. They don't lack bass presence, which is one thing a lot of speakers do lack. |
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Post by MartinT on May 29, 2015 21:52:43 GMT
On the purely aesthetic side, the Blade 2 look just fine to me.
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Post by ynwan on May 30, 2015 11:56:55 GMT
I was at the Munich show the year the Blade was first shown and it caused quite a stir (justifiably) - Mark Levinson amps were used. I've heard it a couple of times since then and recently the Blade 2 (a huge Musical Fidelity integrated was used the last time). I've also heard them demonstrated with large Electrocompaniet amps so power seems to be the linking theme between amps used. I've yet to hear a bad demo of either speaker and I've not been a fan of KEF speakers prior to these (not the sound that is). Looks wise I have no problem with them either.
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