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Post by ynwan on Jul 1, 2015 12:57:12 GMT
I've tried one of the Atratus II interconnects and thought it very good (very flexible too for once). I was going to write a review of it but I got fed up with the continuous changing over of cables that comparison requires.
I've seen the Atratus III without plugs on and it's not all that similar to the Klotz MC5000 though. It is similar in the sense that it is two bundles of stranded copper conductors twisted together with a braided shield but the actual details are quite different. The Atratus uses long crystal OFC copper and the strands are fewer and thicker - also of varying diameter. Each is individually insulated in PTFE. I don't know how much of a difference any of this makes, but there is a difference.
I've directly compared the Klotz, Mark Grant and NVA SSC and didn't find them that similar, or preferable (though the Klotz is great value and the Mark Grant is also good).
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Post by pinkie on Jul 1, 2015 13:10:06 GMT
According to quite a few people the QED cable is quite harsh on top It was pretty horrible in the bottom, and nothing to write home about anywhere else. To the point of faulty. Even the transition from regular 13 amp mains flex to my flat chord cables wasn't as dramatic as junking the QED's at Kevins. I still have that one marked down as a freak episode - we had too little time and too many better things to do, but it was very dramatic. Interestingly Owens demonstration of building a designer cable with components in a box (which is I take it what the article refers to) was interconnects only. I prefer to have good amplifiers, properly set up systems, and then find cables make little difference - and plain vanilla is just fine. However if Cagey sends me the recipe for his Klotz or whatever they are I'll have a little play. I have 2 sets to try. If I want a really good laugh I might see if Arthur will lend me his silly ones with the arrows on to tell you which way they go. Yours for the price of a Benchmark AHB2 (nearly)
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Post by MartinT on Jul 1, 2015 16:50:13 GMT
I prefer to have good amplifiers, properly set up systems, and then find cables make little difference - and plain vanilla is just fine. That's counter-intuitive, and not what I experience. Do everything else well first, then cables are the fine tuning and you hear the biggest differences between them.
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Post by ynwan on Jul 1, 2015 20:27:10 GMT
The better your system the less cables make a difference isn't my experience either - but if it makes him happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 23:18:47 GMT
I've tried one of the Atratus II interconnects and thought it very good (very flexible too for once). I was going to write a review of it but I got fed up with the continuous changing over of cables that comparison requires. I've seen the Atratus III without plugs on and it's not all that similar to the Klotz MC5000 though. It is similar in the sense that it is two bundles of stranded copper conductors twisted together with a braided shield but the actual details are quite different. The Atratus uses long crystal OFC copper and the strands are fewer and thicker - also of varying diameter. Each is individually insulated in PTFE. I don't know how much of a difference any of this makes, but there is a difference. I've directly compared the Klotz, Mark Grant and NVA SSC and didn't find them that similar, or preferable (though the Klotz is great value and the Mark Grant is also good). From what I have seen (and I know what the base cable is - it does not take much to work it out) the strands are not individually insulated, but I assume you mean the "bundles" are individually insulated. You also forgot the Mylar shield under the braiding.
It looks similar to the ELECAUDIO SC-221OCC.
To be honest, I am in a happy place with my cables for now.
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Post by ynwan on Jul 2, 2015 11:41:35 GMT
No, I meant the strands were individually insulated but (I'm sure I remember that), yes, I did forget to mention the Mylar shield (I also didn't mention the outer copper shield is densely braided as opposed to two layers of contra-wound flat laid strands.
Edit: I've just looked up the ELECAUDIO SC-221OCC and it's certainly not that - that has much finer strands.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 12:34:18 GMT
I know it's not the Elecaudio. It's the wrong colour for a start. I said that the Elecaudio was similar. It's not identical.
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Post by ynwan on Jul 2, 2015 13:28:52 GMT
My early sample doesn't have heat shrink over the plug and cable join so I'll have a look later and confirm I'm not mistaken.
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Post by ynwan on Jul 29, 2015 21:25:01 GMT
OK, I've checked the one I have and it is as I have described, irrespective of what others might think.
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