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Post by danielquinn on Jul 9, 2014 11:56:46 GMT
The AG1500 puts hash right back into the mains. I bought one, it made everything worse, I measured it and put it on eBay the same day............... Dave Trust you advertised it as being not fit for purpose and not working
This is the first negative [ ie made things worse ] report I have read .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 9, 2014 11:54:14 GMT
Exposed the need for some reality checking. That's my raison detre , I meant you lumping me in with accountants
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 9, 2014 11:40:35 GMT
bloody hell , what have I done .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 9, 2014 9:47:45 GMT
Given that A80's just trounced £18 k of naim amplification [ see pfm or h/s ] it would seem that the market says you should be charging 20k for a set doc .
as has just been graphically pointed out to you pinky , your classical economics dogma as no bearing on reality , it is old news and is the reason why Manchester University economics students recently protested that the economics degree course wasn't fit for purpose .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 9, 2014 9:17:41 GMT
Resistor ?
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 9, 2014 8:32:38 GMT
it as been suggested the price paid is an individuals choice . I would retort with 2 things .
No firm bar 1 , provides you with sufficient information for anybody to make an informed choice upon the price structure . If the P10 was confirmed as costing a couple of hundred quid to make , I doubt anyone would buy it .
Secondly Additionally , it is not actually an individuals choice . Individuals make choices within a socio-economic framework not of their making . The existence of £10,00 mains conditioners and £100,000 amplifiers reflects dysfunctional distribution of wealth . I would rather live in a world were Ferrari went bankrupt and reasonably priced car manufacturers thrived cause fewer people had less and more people had more . Economies function better for more people is wealth is better distributed .
What did your house cost to build? What would it cost to rebuild if it burned down? What has that got to do with the price you would sell it for?
Richard may arrive at his pricing by a "cost plus" approach (the introductory paragraph on pricing models). He is entitled to do that, and I wish him success with it. But in reality, his price is probably also determined by his marketing choices and the perceived value of the product regardless of the honourable principles he seeks to apply (Why mark-up on materials, why not "add labour at fixed hourly rate?). In reality the market has set his price. If it were underpriced in the market he would be in the postion of Morgan Cars when John Harvey-Jones advised them to put up their prices (4 year waiting list for product).
There is a special sort of arrogance in the socialist model that a group of well-meaning planners should decide how much wealth each of us get to keep and how it is produced. History also suggests that there is spectacular incompetence and corruption to accompany it (acknowledging capitalism is not without the odd wart). Essentially it is Darwinian evolution. You can pray for the alternative, but the environmental evidence argues against you
(Further apologies for the thread drift - please feel free to play with the new tools in your forum toybox, and cut us out to a thread of our own. 'Fraid it is beyond me to DIY)
You thinking appears to be -unusually - all other the place .
What as my house price got to do with any point I made ?
And indeed your second paragraph . You are once again mistaking what is for must be .
It also takes a special kind of arrogance to assume I am a reconstructed seventies lefty without any actual evidence . And your comment on Darwinian evolution is to be frank bollocks .
Humans beings are simultaneously created by a world that they didn't make and make it again through their actions , this is an exceptionally complex process currently little understand , suffice to say comments like survival of the fittest , acting in your self interest to explain how societies reproduce themselves are deterministic bullshit .
All people act within a social structure outside of which they cannot act . This structure is both implied and explicit [ rules of conversation are just one of the tacit structural elements we implicitly know ] Acting within this structure gives us the appearance of free will .
The structure is also overt - Try walking down the high street with your penis out . Once apprehended , pretend you do not know you did anything wrong and keep doing it , before long you will become incapacitated pursuant of the 2005 Mental Capacity Act .
I am all for free will , just tinkering with the social , normative and legal structure that confines free will . in terms of economics - these include -
1] john lewis /armed services pay structures. 2] tax systems that focus on the collective good - for instance - imposing the cost of redundancy upon profitable companies for two years .
That will do for now .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 9, 2014 7:34:53 GMT
O yes. Academic economics. What a load of crap that is. Unusually brief for you pinky.
Edit.Your second post arrived post my response.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 18:33:59 GMT
Thank you
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 15:13:30 GMT
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 14:59:09 GMT
As far as British made speakers go, these are IMHO about as good as it gets What are these ?
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 14:56:09 GMT
Play time with Noddy , I am liking it .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 14:41:14 GMT
Astonishing can be bad as well as good , so your inference may not correct .
And , best to find out these things for yourselves I find , though i would worry about my cartridge .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 12:58:00 GMT
of course it works , all women have a vagina , all turntables have a drive system . Differences in them are irrelevent in the choice of a women or turntable .
Having said this i do have a distate of cheap AC motors found on many turntables including the project i think.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 12:36:20 GMT
Noted
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 12:29:42 GMT
I took Paul to be asking for recommendations of either drive - that is, not restricted to either belt or direct - rather than for a recommendation of one or the other. I try not to ambiguity in point of a posters post get in the way of me making a concise , brilliant and funny post
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 12:10:14 GMT
Apolgoies had to quote this , before you amended it
And hello from me ,from here Mr Booth
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 12:08:11 GMT
"So, with Turntable and Phono Pre-amp in hand what other kit would you say is essential in getting the best from those charity shop finds and new vinyl".
IMO this is an impossible silly question , picking your turntable on the basis of its drive system is like choosing a wife on the basis she as a vagina .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 9:45:43 GMT
If I read Mikes post correctly I see these fabulous properties are not susceptible to the tea and bun test ie - you can't pop round and have a listen with and without in the way say you could swap a cartridge, because the effect is subtle and builds up over time. You know where I'm coming from on this one. It might - but building up over time lets a whole bunch of other variables into the equation. Unlike DQ I think people should do what they like with as much money as they can get, and attempting to allocate wealth by some means other than market forces was what caused Shostakovitch such angst (and his brown tongue), and isn't for me. Much more your Adam Smith sort of guy, personally. However, before I parted with any significant amount of money for an audible improvement I would need to be able to hear it. It would be no good somebody assuring me I would be able to hear it once I had parted with the cash, got it home, made it a cup of tea and tucked it up with a blanket. Don't take it personally mains products - I don't buy cartridges and speakers that way either. "the market decides these things" ??
You have of course portrayed the market as all right wingers do , in the abstract as an entity similar to a force of nature . The market decides ? how does that happen .
the market is nothing more the aggregate outcomes and unintended consequences of individual human decisions . And human decisions are not made in a vacuum, they are made with variable knowledge , cultural norms , variable resources , variable power , variable wealth and in a legal , socio-cultural framework . Change the allocation of power, resources and the legal socio framework you change the market .
What you see is not all that there is ,alas .
p.s apologies for off topic , but pinky made me do it , again .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 8:56:44 GMT
Mains regeneration is one of those "explanations for explanations sake" hifi issues I alluded to .
There is a significant body of hifi community reporting favourable results , so for me it is filed in the investigate if you get the chance , but it should not be dismissed, despite the paucity of explanation .
however , if the P10 is worth the money I will eat my PT at scalfod .
it as been suggested the price paid is an individuals choice . I would retort with 2 things .
No firm bar 1 , provides you with sufficient information for anybody to make an informed choice upon the price structure . If the P10 was confirmed as costing a couple of hundred quid to make , I doubt anyone would buy it .
Secondly Additionally , it is not actually an individuals choice . Individuals make choices within a socio-economic framework not of their making . The existence of £10,00 mains conditioners and £100,000 amplifiers reflects dysfunctional distribution of wealth . I would rather live in a world were Ferrari went bankrupt and reasonably priced car manufacturers thrived cause fewer people had less and more people had more . Economies function better for more people is wealth is better distributed .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 8, 2014 8:26:21 GMT
Chris , that's a genius idea for bracing . I to rejected the bolt through the cabinet idea [ ala monitor audio ] and pursuant of my stupidty , you will not believe the hours I have spent trying to force sawn off broom handles between the internal panels . To short and no tension , to long and you cant get the bloody thing in .
Where do I get myself some of those bolty thingys - Ta .
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