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Post by ChrisB on Sept 30, 2014 7:25:42 GMT
I kept my records too and I spent that golden age hoovering up all the ones that the CD buyers were abandoning. I was spoiled and now I wince at the thought of having to pay more than a couple of quid on a single disc!
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Post by AlexM on Sept 30, 2014 8:48:23 GMT
I had a Sony CDP-101 from new - having a remote control was luxury.
It sounded pretty good by the standards of the day when it worked, which wasn't often. It had seven separate circuit boards, and was absolutely packed internally. I am sure that it was a loss leader.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 30, 2014 8:55:32 GMT
Think it was a CDP-101 my mate brought around, certainly a very early Sony.
Compared to an LP12 I just didn't like it. Kept wanting to turn the music *down*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 10:55:45 GMT
Arh Mr Keyword and the anti digital brigade again Maybe Dave can instruct him on how to use the Rhode and Schwarz equipment and more importantly understand how to interprate the results and write in a appealing competent and engaging manner. CD reply these days is pretty damn respectable you need to match the performance of half decent red book player the analogue front end is usually more expensive to achieve matching results. (there will always be exceptions for both parties) Reading this tripe makes me smile, the biggest issue facing ALL FORMATS is purely the transfer from the original master recording to the end format.
I have some pretty fine pieces of Vinyl that make you smile, yet also some truly diabolical records which are fot only for Frisbee's. In the same vein the compression and poor transfer on some CD's renders them fit only for beermats.
Don't for one minute think that medium and high resolution files are immune from this scenario far from it.
A properly recorded , mixed and transfered 16/44.1Khz can sound pretty damn good it's all in the process, oh did I mention replay chain......
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Post by DaveC on Sept 30, 2014 11:07:48 GMT
Hi Tony
He was being confrontational and sensational, but it is actually factual.
You are now changing the goal posts and I have no issue with that, and yes there are many appalling records and also CD's. Not to mention some so called HiRes downloads that actually aren't. Good and bad in all things...........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 11:43:32 GMT
Hi Dave
The usual response in Digital V's Vinyl wars is bandwidth V's S/N or how much more Vinyl is natural sounding or digital delivers a lower noise floor and detail etc.
I am fortunate to be able to play all formats to a acceptable standard and a system that can clearly and repeatedly demonstrate audible differences and while there are certain traits that each format exhibits in a more pleasing manner than others.
IF all things were equal in the world of reproduced music and ever piece of music sold was produced to an exacting standing and the end users had fully transparent systems and rooms were ideal then the REAL differences between the various formats would be unequivocally obvious. However due to many variables this is not the case in the real world.
Even between various recording studio's the differences are quite marked, this is not always down to equipment cost or room acoustics.
I still maintain that a high quality transfer to the end format (what ever that format is) matters more than the format it is being played on.
The old adage applies here, mediocre software is going to give you a mediocre sound no matter how good the replay system is. There is only so far you can polish a turd!
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Post by DaveC on Sept 30, 2014 12:10:52 GMT
Hi Tony
On your post above I fully agree with you ! I prefer vinyl in the evening and digital during the day; but purely for logistic reasons.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 30, 2014 13:18:37 GMT
I prefer vinyl for rock and digital for classical, there's no great difference in it but that has been my pattern of media buying for some time.
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Post by John on Sept 30, 2014 19:52:07 GMT
I enjoy both formats Most of my rock based stuff I can only get on digital so digital is what I tend to listen to most. These days I hear more similarities than differences between the two mediums
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Post by Barry on Oct 1, 2014 1:37:59 GMT
I was a little later that year and bought a Philips CD-104 in a show deal that included a bundle of discs. I wish I had kept that player, it was well built. I'm pretty sure it had the cast metal swing-arm drive before they went all plastic.
The Philips 101 was a poor player; hardly any better than its forerunner, the 100. The 104 was just about acceptable, unfortunately it was so well made, Philips made a loss on every machine sold. It also suffered from the fact that it was a very (read "too") compact player. The component packing density was such that the machine ran hot; the heat-sinking was inadeqate for housing the player in a shelf unit and because of that, the player could fail. Mine did, as did a unit of a friend of mine, though my local, friendly, repair man, sorted it, and at the same time 'touched up' all the soldered joints on the PCB.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2014 4:11:23 GMT
Interesting, Barry. Mine ran hot but it never failed in the time that I had it.
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Post by lurcher on Oct 1, 2014 6:46:55 GMT
I have fixed a couple of those (104), the swing arm was a wonder to behold, not sure if it works any better than the modern sled pickups but was a precision bit of work. the PCB's had a habit of failing, they were double sided but not (as would be the case now) plated through. There were a number of vias between sides that often needed resoldering. Though I had one fail because the digital filter chip had partly died. Fixed thanks to ebay.
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