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Post by Slinger on Dec 11, 2017 16:08:22 GMT
wouldn't you need to know them to have respect for them? I don't think so. I have huge respect for Richard Feynman and his achievements but I never knew him. Much can be solved by Googling the definition of "respect." As usual, there are slightly varying definitions but none of them that I've looked at so far are reliant on actually knowing the person one claims to respect. I would therefore respectfully submit that respecting someone you don't know and respecting someone you do know are exactly the same, but different. TBH I was in the "you need to know someone before you can respect them" camp until I took the time to look it up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 16:13:11 GMT
You are a font of useful less knowledge aren't you, Paul
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Post by Tim on Dec 11, 2017 16:18:55 GMT
Of course you don't have to know someone to respect them, what a silly idea. Just flip it around, does that mean you can't disrespect someone if you don't know them? I have absolutely zero respect for Donald Trump, but I don't know him, nor do I ever wish to!
I have huge respect for countless musicians, far too many to list here.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 11, 2017 17:16:16 GMT
You are a font of useful less knowledge aren't you, Paul After many years of receiving, and watching other people receive, everything from gentle ribbing to out and out abuse on forums I try to verify things when I can be arsed remember. It's why I always try to quote a source in my Trump tirades, so people can bugger off and argue with the BBC or whoever instead of me.
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Post by puffin on Dec 11, 2017 18:36:27 GMT
When I wrote my post I was mindful of the skewed logic applied to the definition of respect used by some in society. Here is what the Urban Dictionary says :-
Respect Treating people in a positive manner that acknowledges them for who they are and/or what they are doing. Being treated or treating an individual in a dignified manner. Respect is earned and is never just given. BUT, you must give respect to receive respect. Meaning when you interact with an individual you treat them with dignity and in a respectful manner as this shows your character as a person. And the respect will be reciprocated. You must always behave in a respectful manner as this reflects on you, your character, integrity and values of who you are as a person.
No one owes you respect until you have earned it, so there is no such thing as I will give it after they give it to me first. That attitude is a disrespectful action to anyone you interact with as it insinuates that you do not trust them to act accordingly, and implies that they "owe" you respect before you will give it. That will cause people to LOSE respect for you or never gain it in the first place. When you first meet someone, everyone is given the benefit of the doubt that they are a respectable individual. Questioning their integrity(respect) before you have even met them and "expecting" respect to be given without giving it yourself is insulting and condescending to that person and is judging them in a negative light when you know absolutely nothing about them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 19:51:48 GMT
Next please
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 11, 2017 20:44:12 GMT
Rag'n'Bone Man. Fruit'n'Veg Man. Legend
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 21:02:40 GMT
Fruit’n’Veg Man - great name, I’ll use that when I decide to become a star
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Post by Barrington on Dec 13, 2017 18:51:21 GMT
Ian Anderson still performing , still writing , I wonder how many songs he has penned.
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