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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 17:18:31 GMT
Following on from my guilty secrets thread, what artists/bands do you dislike/not get that others rave about?
Mine would be.
Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac and most albums pre Rumours. Peter Gabriel era Genesis Jeff Beck
Sure there are others, but this is a good start.
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Post by Stratmangler on Dec 2, 2017 17:25:30 GMT
Lana Del Bloody Rey!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 17:51:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 18:09:54 GMT
Bob Dylan Neil Young
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Post by Tim on Dec 2, 2017 18:21:07 GMT
Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac Peter Gabriel era Genesis Jeff Beck Bob Dylan Neil Young
I love em' all (although JB can be a bit cheesy at times), we could however start with Fleetwood Mac from Rumours though, but the trump card has already been played;
Lana Del Rey
Adele will do I guess, Ed Sheeren, COLDPLAY (really don't like Coldplay) Sam Smith, Phil Collins, Eminem, Guns N' Roses, Kenny G, Billy Joel, Garth Brooks, Brad Paisley, Shania Twain - in fact just look at this lot, pretty much all of it. Did you know that Garth Brooks is the biggest selling artist of all time after The Beatles?
I could be here all night Paul, but as I've said elsewhere, if it's Pop and most like it, I normally don't.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 19:08:41 GMT
Yeah I don’t really get Bob Dylan either.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 2, 2017 21:50:59 GMT
Rufus Bloody Wainwright.
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Post by Tim on Dec 3, 2017 0:04:11 GMT
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Post by John on Dec 3, 2017 6:41:26 GMT
Love Jeff Beck for me its all about his phrasing but I love the sound of the guitar
Peter green for me wrote one of the best songs every recorded deep and sad listen to the lyrics. For me the issue with early Fleetwood Mac is consistency.
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Post by mikeyb on Dec 3, 2017 7:41:06 GMT
Jazz
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 8:19:24 GMT
Opera The Beatles Prog Blur Heavy Metal The Blue Nile Mikes Davis John Coltrane
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Post by Tim on Dec 3, 2017 10:04:09 GMT
Peter green for me wrote one of the best songs every recorded deep and sad listen to the lyrics The poignancy of 'Man of the World' means so much more when you know Peters life and the circumstances around how he was feeling when he wrote it. As you say John, one of the best songs ever written and for me it only really works when he's playing it.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 3, 2017 10:20:18 GMT
Adele Adele Adele Adele Adele
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Post by Tim on Dec 3, 2017 10:24:19 GMT
Clearly a man of discerning taste Jules
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Post by orbscure on Dec 3, 2017 10:54:47 GMT
Ed Bloody Sheeran... and yes, I have listened to all of his studio albums and just didn't get any of them...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 11:31:20 GMT
Ed Bloody Sheeran... and yes, I have listened to all of his studio albums and just didn't get any of them... Lol - I love his stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 11:31:48 GMT
Adele Adele Adele Adele Adele I’m guessing you’re a fan, Jules LOL
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Post by Tim on Dec 3, 2017 11:42:11 GMT
Ed Sheeren is IMO a classic example of the King's new clothes. My theory is that the general populace who don't really know much about music (20M X-Factor fans), the music business or how musicians actually 'make' music are blinded by his use of loops (which I dislike intensely) and are astonished at how one person can make such a sound. I think that's impressing them more than it's actual content. The rest is just the 'got to be in with the in crowd' syndrome and that is a very powerful draw in these days of social media - to be of the moment is everything. He's talented yes and he can write songs yes, I can respect that, even though they don't strike a chord with me - but to sell out multiple arenas in minutes amounting to many millions of tickets, well that's just indicative of how fucked up and distorted the music business is and why so many talented artists either give up, or live on the poverty line in the hope that one day they can pay bills without having to sell something. I liken it to an iceberg, the very top 5/10% is where all the money is, but contains a very small number of artists, most of whom are pop and mediocre at best, but it's mainstream, heavily marketed and trendy. The 'in crowd' as it were and its what people see who don't look, or don't care. But like an iceberg the remaining larger portion is hidden, it's where the real talent is and you only find it if you look for it. That's where my interest has always been and long before I even thought about it. At this point in time none of my music fan mates like or get Ed Sheeren, but I know oodles of people who buy the odd greatest hits album, shuffle about 100 random songs on their phones, don't have a Hi-Fi or go to any other gigs who absolutely adore him - will that be the same in 5 years time for them? I very much doubt it. But who's right, is there a right or wrong and should anyone really care? Anyway, that's my thought for the day
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Post by Slinger on Dec 3, 2017 13:33:55 GMT
Jumping on what Tim has said above, kidnapping it, and then driving off with it in my own direction, I find what he's describing to be indicative of successive generations where more and more (let's call them) teenagers are becoming more and more reliant on somebody else to tell them what to think about celebrity, and I use the word loosely, and who to like or dislike. They wouldn't know an original idea if it bit them on the arse. Trends are being set by corporations rather than, as in my youth certainly, by individuals or bands. Punk was probably the last major groundswell/grass-roots movement in music and that was in the mid-seventies. That soon got jumped on by the record companies and self-appointed trendsetters, gurus, and gravy-train hobos, and it had almost completely disappeared up it's own arse two or three years later. People starting their own record labels? Corporate music couldn't have that. Where was their cut? The so-called Madchester scene tried but soon collapsed under the weight of its own collective, and often very stoned, egos. We now live in a so-called celebrity culture where people become famous for being famous and not for being original or clever. Less and less money is being given to A&R men at record companies. These are the guys who used to go to two or three gigs a night and actually discover real live musical talent for companies to sign and promote. More and more of record company budgets is being used to 'create' artists. Hit the bricks and go to gigs or take a troll through YouTube/SoundCloud/Band Camp etc? We know what that decision is. By the way, KT Tunstall (to name just one artist) was using live looping to great effect long before Ed Anodyne Sheeran. Even that aspect of his performance, or gimmick, is not original. There will always be originality in music, but some of us remember when IT used to find US via the radio, or gigs at the local town hall. Nowadays you seemingly have to do whatever the musical equivalent is of panning for gold. Happily we can still rely on places like this with members who gladly share their nuggets, big and small. Even Lana Del Bloody Ray (which from reading this forum I believe to be her full name) and Harold Steptoe Rag And Bone Man. Sometimes it may, to some of us at least, be fool's gold.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 3, 2017 16:04:26 GMT
Elvis Costello.
One of the most overrated singer / songwriters of all time. I avoid at all costs.
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