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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 21:02:27 GMT
I think I have a bit more of a taste for "peakiness". I seem to miss it if there's no "bite" to,the sound. I bet you'd love the Sonneteers on the passive inputs. It takes away that stimulus element and I just can't seem to do without it. Most people prefer the passive inputs and say they have extra finesse but it's probably wasted on me.
With the Asgard, I find it so good, I would still keep and love it if it only had the low gain setting. It's just a very "right" sounding thing. High gain just seems to give it a bit of a steroid boost!
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Post by southall1998 on Feb 26, 2018 21:06:45 GMT
I think I have a bit more of a taste for "peakiness". I seem to miss it if there's no "bite" to,the sound. I bet you'd love the Sonneteers on the passive inputs. It takes away that stimulus element and I just can't seem to do without it. Most people prefer the passive inputs and say they have extra finesse but it's probably wasted on me. With the Asgard, I find it so good, I would still keep and love it if it only had the low gain setting. It's just a very "right" sounding thing. High gain just seems to give it a bit of a steroid boost! What position do you have the volume dial at on the Asgard? Just curious! S.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 21:10:58 GMT
Not that high: between 11 and 12 usually with RS2es
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Post by southall1998 on Feb 26, 2018 21:17:01 GMT
When you say 11 and 12. Do you mean the same position, like the numbers on a clock?
Sorry to be trolling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 21:42:45 GMT
Yes, I'm not sure if the dial has numbers on it, but I meant clock position. I rarely go past 12 O'clock.
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Post by southall1998 on Feb 26, 2018 21:47:48 GMT
No, it doesn't.
In my opinion, numbers wouldn't suit the Asgard. Looks much better without!
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Post by MartinT on Feb 27, 2018 15:22:19 GMT
Revolver Super Arm (a little-known Jelco-based special which is quite a bit better than the 250ST IMHO). That might work well. The Jelco is not the last word in resolution or extension but it's a pretty good all-rounder (I had a 250ST originally on my Technics).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 17:33:53 GMT
After a few weeks away, I’m back in Cyprus until our sale goes through. On my travels I managed to get hold of a pair of Duevel Planets. I loved them from the first note but they were black, which wasn’t my favourite shade. I managed to track down a silver pair in Germany and do a deal using Google Translate. Here they are in situ. If anyone out there is remotely curious, I’d recommend tracking some down. At £850 new I’d say they are the biggest bargain in hifi today. They sound utterly huge, warm and clear. Oh, and of course they look incredible too.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 23, 2018 10:38:46 GMT
After a few weeks away, I’m back in Cyprus until our sale goes through. On my travels I managed to get hold of a pair of Duevel Planets. I loved them from the first note but they were black, which wasn’t my favourite shade. I managed to track down a silver pair in Germany and do a deal using Google Translate. Here they are in situ. If anyone out there is remotely curious, I’d recommend tracking some down. At £850 new I’d say they are the biggest bargain in hifi today. They sound utterly huge, warm and clear. Oh, and of course they look incredible too. Would sound much better in black of course !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 12:10:48 GMT
This pair are actually slightly older. The design appears to be revised pretty often. I’ve no idea how much the sound differs. Here is a rough chronology as far as I can muster, oldest first:
1. Doped paper drivers, two ports, small rubber feet, twin uprights to support the globes 2. Single upright globe support instead of twin. 3. Undoped paper drivers. Plus more elegant and less obtrusive globe support (my current ones) 4. Kevlar bass units (Gradient MDS 05) single port, taller rubber feet (the black ones I sold). 5. Square MDF feet 6. 45 degree angled MDF feet (current).
I’ve just sourced and fitted the taller feet. Look a lot better, but sound the same to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 11:36:28 GMT
Been a while since I last updated, but not many real changes. Only the addition of a Sonneteer Dryden DAC and a Sedley Phono stage. I haven’t had a chance to try the DAC yet, but I wanted to share my thoughts on the Sedley as they rarely get discussed. So I was playing with the Sedley today, but only on MM because I don’t have access to some kit, cables etc. It also meant using the Revolver with an AT91 so not exactly high end, but not crap either. It’s a decent deck and always was.
The first half hour was typical,of me. In a mood because because I hate wiring stuff up from scratch. It wasn’t helped by what must rank as the worst instructions ever regarding dip switches. Thankfully I downloaded the latest manual which is a lot clearer.
All this was forgotten within seconds because it sounds utterly lovable. Ok, not the most precise description but how do you describe something when all you get is the emotion and you don’t really hear or care about the sound, all I can do is tell you how it made me feel. Same as easing out of your work clothes and tight shoes. Same as relaxing into your favourite chair. Same as slipping into a warm candle-lit bath. In other words it has the Sonneteer trademark of making you exhale with a big “aaahhhh”.
To me that’s priceless. It’s also almost undefinable, but it IS tangible. So I won’t be telling you how it made the piccolo sound on some obscure recording nobody else owns. I won’t even tell you about its bass, treble or midrange. All I can tell you is that it has the same easy “rightness” that I love about Sonneteer. If that sounds like your bag, grab a listen. If not, I hope you find something you enjoy as much,
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 12:17:12 GMT
You were very lucky to bag a Dryden, which is basically the dac section of the Byron very few are left, we have couple of them for spares now, under rated, nice flow and musicality.
Remo should reconsider releasing a dac again this time based around the new dac module in the new streaming integrated amp
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Post by MartinT on Sept 7, 2018 12:25:24 GMT
It's a great feeling when a component just sounds 'right' and you don't care about the bass etc.
I must admit I've never knowingly heard a Sonneteer component.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 13:17:57 GMT
I’m still struggling to listen to a Sonneteer component myself! They make it very hard because you just enjoy the music. I can’t promise anyone else will feel the same way but everything just seems like it was intended to be. Not many hifi brands manage a consistent signature but Sonneteer certainly evoke the all same emotions with the kit I’ve tried. I still have the DAC to go. If that brings more goodness, I think I will have to declare myself an ex box swapper! The Sonneteer shoe just fits for me, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 19:18:40 GMT
Martin you would like the Alabaster Naim done correctly only gripe is no remote fun and enjoyable and thoroughly entertaining
The Orton is more refined and offers a more mature sound, can compeat with some of the Larvardin's though it is 45Wrms but it is a very good 45 watts deferent beast
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 21:51:32 GMT
After lots of fun today, I can safely say the Dryden DAC is every bit as good as the other Sonneteer bits, I had expected little or nothing to be honest. It’s essentially the same DAC board that’s inside the Byron I already use. It has a slightly bigger transformer and is in a separate case with it’s own mains lead. That’s it.
I asked Haider after buying if it would be any different and he said he recalled it being bigger and more weighty. He was right and it’s far from subtle. My wife was straight into it from the first few bars, so I know it’s an obvious improvement. It’s like a power supply upgrade to a Naim product. Vocals in particular have so much more about them, including presence. What’s really great is that I already liked the Byron sound. Now I simply get more of it, with no downsides.
I also made an extra iec lead and fired up my Sony PS-6750 so I could try out the Sedley’s MC stage. It has all the same hallmarks on MC as MM. I have to say it’s the most silent Mc stage I’ve ever come across. I turned up the amp volume on the run in groove and thought it wasn’t on. Yes it’s that quiet.
Having bought the Sedley and Dryden essentially blind and taken weeks to get to hear them, I can’t believe how lucky I have been. Putting all the bits together really goes make them more than the sum of their parts.
I haven’t seen anyone else running a Sonneteer amp, CD, phono stage and DAC. If anyone else out there has a Sonneteer stack, I’d love to hear from you and share notes.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 8, 2018 5:11:09 GMT
Interesting thread. Much love for Sonneteer! It's one of those brands that just doesn't seem to have crossed my path at the right time - I don't think I've ever heard any let alone owned any! I shall have to keep an eye out for some. Duevel Planet speakers I have heard, very nice indeed! An omni approach like my MBLs, they just sound better to my ear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 8:32:38 GMT
Sonneteer are so “under the radar” it’s not surprising you haven’t heard them anywhere. It was only threads started by Art K on US forums that piqued my interest. Then Gromit got one, took some of his incredible pics and I wanted to seek them out.
The thing that fascinates me is that hardly anyone need sells them on, including serial box swappers like me. I think it’s because they have reached parts of me that have made me stop listening critically and just enjoy.
I really dig the Planets, so I’m sure your MBLs would be nirvana for me. From my limited exposure to omnis, they just seem a more natural way to fill a room, It’s akin to living inside the musical experience rather than looking in from the outside.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 7:28:38 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Sept 12, 2018 7:39:50 GMT
I recognise that rack, too!
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