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Post by ChrisB on Aug 18, 2017 19:38:34 GMT
I think we all noticed the beginning of something when portable music devices really took off - itunes and the iplayer heralded a change in quite a few things. People started buying individual tracks from albums and listening to playlists. Now, with the rise of Spotify, there's a theory that the album as a 'thing' is going to fizzle out and die. A few reasons are given: 1) Songwriting is now starting to contort to fit the aesthetic and audience of certain playlists; trying to second-guess what will connect best. “There is absolutely no doubt that music is being written and put out to do well on streaming services,” suggests David Emery, head of global marketing strategy at music publishing company Kobalt. “But that’s in exactly the same way that tracks have always been written for Top 40 radio. The format the music ends up on determines how people write for that format.”2) Spotify has a big interest in making playlists and because of this, it's becoming a playlisting priority for labels, which gives it even more dominance. Some artists are starting to abandon the album format and just create evolving playlists instead. David Gray released a “dynamic” greatest hits on Spotify where tracks were switched around depending on how popular they were. Others are planning similar things such as an eight-track “evolving playlist” where it will be added to and subtracted from on a regular basis. Playlisting now means that an album you play today might be different from the same album when you play it next month - it's no longer a fixed entity. 3) Voice activated speakers are changing things too. Amazon are making one and Apple and Google are getting into this too. People are saying things like "Play me some new music" and leaving it to the machine to come up with a playlist. Article here |
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Post by Barrington on Aug 18, 2017 19:44:51 GMT
Certainly an album of new music is full of filler usually , they don't make 'em like they used to  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 18, 2017 19:59:18 GMT
Think that is going to happen.
I have some albums that are classic and need to have all tracks present, in order. Nothing else will do.
At the other end there are for example albums by X Los Angeles
The world's a mess, it's in my kiss is wonderful. Rest of the album not so.
Karen Fialka
Armband is wonderful. Rest of the album not.
If I took out the not so good tracks from albums my guess is 40% less. That is a guess. Certainly 20% minimum.
John Peel so often found that one track from an album to play.
I bought the album and found the same track he did as good.
Taping them they naturally fell into a playlist I had on tape. Often the segways and sum of the parts far exceeded the lone tracks and I know those tracks running together.
Weird and out of context to hear the albums
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Post by MartinT on Aug 18, 2017 20:55:26 GMT
I still use Spotify very much in album mode and rarely use playlists unless I'm in the mood for discovery.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 18, 2017 21:05:49 GMT
I think I have only ever used one of theirs once.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 18, 2017 21:39:28 GMT
I very occasionally listen to a playlist.
For me it's an album at a time for the rest of the time.
My son doesn't really use playlists either - he's learned of the magic of those album tracks that don't immediately grab you, but grow on you instead.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 19, 2017 11:01:25 GMT
#1 Separates the artists from the artistes.
#2 The closest I get to a playlist is putting the mp3 player on shuffle when I'm out. It will remain so.
#3 Is...
Me - "Alexa, play me mostly crap"
Alexa - "I'm playing the latest album chart"
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Post by MartinT on Aug 19, 2017 11:05:16 GMT
Indeed, it's like listening to most radio stations. I'd rather hear my choices, thank you.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 19, 2017 14:05:11 GMT
Listen to someone else's playlist ? Very unlikely.
Make up my own ?
I'll be on it sooner or later
Having multiple tapes from John Peels show I already have for some music
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 15:23:31 GMT
I always listen to the full album. One of my all time pet hates is Compilation LP's Best off etc.. Pretty much what play lists are but a mixed bag of artists..
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Post by Chris on Jan 28, 2018 8:58:36 GMT
I'm a playlist person. Make up 3 or 4 and either listen to them or play them on shuffle. There's very few albums that hold my attention.
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Post by Tim on Jan 28, 2018 9:28:59 GMT
Never do anything other than play the entire album (unless I don't like it). The only type of 'playlist' I listen to are the weekly Ricky Ross and Bob Harris radio shows, which I try to never miss. I guess they are playlists of a sort? I have a deeply ingrained aversion to playlists (other than at parties), greatest hits or compilation albums. Shuffle play is the devil, come the revolution I'd shoot anyone who shuffle plays music  I do however sometimes flick through artists I follow on Spotify, if they have made a playlist. But, I don't 'play' it - I read through it to see if there's someone there I don't know, then I play that song and if I like it after say a minute, I then go straight to the album it's from and play the entire album. |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2018 12:20:58 GMT
I play albums at home and have an album oriented view of music.
However, I do find the Spotify daily mixes good for playing at work in my office. I often discover something new that way.
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Post by Chris on Jan 28, 2018 13:23:06 GMT
Do neither of you make up playlists for yourselves?
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 28, 2018 13:37:44 GMT
I never do that. The furthest I might go is to skip the odd track that I don't want to hear.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2018 13:39:02 GMT
Do neither of you make up playlists for yourselves? Yes, I have a couple to which I add things of interest so that I don't forget them. |
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Post by Tim on Jan 28, 2018 13:50:36 GMT
Do neither of you make up playlists for yourselves? Nope, I really dislike playlists Chris - for me an album is a complete entity with linearity of construction (hence not liking compilations), so I play it as the artist intended it to be heard. I really cannot understand why anyone would want to change or mess with that. I guess the concept is probably as odd to you as it is to me I play what fits my mood at that time and who I want to hear, so a playlist just wouldn't work. How would you properly evaluate an album if you just picked out snippets from it too? |
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Post by Chris on Jan 28, 2018 14:01:39 GMT
That's an interesting take on it all. Personally I find there's very few artists and albums that I can listen to for a whole album.
There are a couple of crackers right enough
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 28, 2018 14:11:04 GMT
Benefit of a file based system would be to delete duff tracks and move great tracks to another file.
I used to have a playlist. John Peel recorded off the radio, speech taken out and tracks - as he played them.
Some of the accidental segways and lists were incredible.
Still on tape
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Post by Tim on Jan 28, 2018 14:13:01 GMT
Personally I find there's very few artists and albums that I can listen to for a whole album. You need to buy some decent music then fella  |
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