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Post by Rexton on Mar 27, 2017 19:13:47 GMT
OK, here's mine plonked on top of my 15" MG's.  |
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Post by brian2957 on Mar 27, 2017 21:21:58 GMT
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Post by Clive on Mar 27, 2017 22:34:16 GMT
I'd be tempted to connect with magnet wire. You'd barely see the wires.
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 27, 2017 23:01:08 GMT
I sincerely hope someone is bringing a set of these to The ASBO?!?
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Post by steveeb on Mar 27, 2017 23:23:32 GMT
Here's my custom housing for panel mounting. The Batpure is recessed and wired inside, the aluminium plate anodised and surface mounted with a copper screen.   I find these little devices quite different for a couple of reasons: 1. As the minimal raw membrane and connection, they're cheap enough for a play and small enough to experiment with different locations. 2. They really have very little output under 20kHz, just a faint 'tsss' to check they are still alive after delicate, quick soldering. 3. They have relatively low SPL For me this means they don't mess up a wideband driver such as the Alpair 7, which already has enough HF output and which has a sensitivity of 87dB, so the Batpure doesn't require throttling back. I describe the effect as being on the perception of the presentation rather than adding to the frequency range. The physical location of them has a marked effect on the soundstage; on the front baffle or cabinet top firing forwards the projection is enhanced, on the back apparent depth is increased. Small changes in position make a difference, like time aligning drivers. They don't require any consideration of rear output but dispersion matters; they have limited vertical spread - just try turning them 90 degrees! A baffle helps and I quite like diagonal orientation. Mounting in a bass port or horn mouth is interesting, bass gains more detail and propulsion when they are wired in phase, becomes stronger and fatter when wired out of phase. I prefer the natural sound of the former. Always the result is to hear micro details and apparent increase in response speed, both starting and stopping. Just don't expect 'air and sparkle'. In this design I used them mirrored on the cabinet sides to add focus and smooth the central imaging - I already had enough 'acoustic' from the up-firing wideband driver and enough forward energy from the front horn mouth.   |
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Post by John on Mar 28, 2017 4:12:44 GMT
Some nice looking speakers Steve
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Post by John on Mar 28, 2017 4:16:14 GMT
I sincerely hope someone is bringing a set of these to The ASBO?!? I plan to bring my system even though the speakers will have to be dismantled |
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 28, 2017 5:29:42 GMT
That's good John. I have been interested in these little things ever since you first mentioned them.
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Post by miller65 on Apr 4, 2017 14:25:21 GMT
I am also interested in these and looking forward to the comments and feedback from the bake off later this month.
In terms of connecting and please bear with me on this my understanding is that they need to be connected specifically to the internal tweeter terminals is that correct ? or can you use the external speaker terminals ? I use Robson Opulus Prima speakers which have just one set of terminals per speakers . I do like Brians idea of mounting in a small box which look quite neat and no doubt help with WAF !
Would appreciate anyones help and advice.
Also does anyone have any thoughts on how they would perform with my 2 way speakers which uses a ribbon tweeter and are 86 db sensitivity ?
Thanks
Chris
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Post by Sovereign on Apr 4, 2017 15:31:14 GMT
As always , lovely looking speakers Steve.
What are the valve monoblocks I see?
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Post by brian2957 on Apr 4, 2017 17:07:40 GMT
I am also interested in these and looking forward to the comments and feedback from the bake off later this month. In terms of connecting and please bear with me on this my understanding is that they need to be connected specifically to the internal tweeter terminals is that correct ? or can you use the external speaker terminals ? I use Robson Opulus Prima speakers which have just one set of terminals per speakers . I do like Brians idea of mounting in a small box which look quite neat and no doubt help with WAF ! Would appreciate anyones help and advice. Also does anyone have any thoughts on how they would perform with my 2 way speakers which uses a ribbon tweeter and are 86 db sensitivity ? Thanks Chris Hi Chris , I use these connected directly to the speaker terminals . TBH I've grown to like the little black boxes and will probably use them like this . I plan to seal off the boxes after partly filling them with sand because they are a little light at the moment and prone to moving around 
I must say I love Steves implementation of the TAKETS into his beautiful speakers
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Post by John on Apr 4, 2017 18:39:57 GMT
In France they have a big following
They tend to be used with full range drivers I have no idea how they work in your system but hopefuly with the reports you have a better sense
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Post by Greg on Apr 4, 2017 21:32:16 GMT
I've got a pair to try but I'm having a knee replacement in the morning so I'll report back in due course when I don't need a Zimmer frame ;-)
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Post by Sovereign on Apr 4, 2017 22:24:52 GMT
Good luck Greg .
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Post by steveeb on Apr 4, 2017 22:41:21 GMT
The amps were in a customer's system James, not new toys for me I'm afraid. Audio Innovations I believe, matching power and preamp Precious.
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 4, 2017 22:43:32 GMT
I hope all goes well for you Greg.
The amps look like AI Second Audio monoblocks.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 5, 2017 5:11:43 GMT
I'm having a knee replacement in the morning Good luck with it, Greg! |
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Post by steveeb on Apr 5, 2017 7:12:03 GMT
I am also interested in these and looking forward to the comments and feedback from the bake off later this month. In terms of connecting and please bear with me on this my understanding is that they need to be connected specifically to the internal tweeter terminals is that correct ? or can you use the external speaker terminals ? I use Robson Opulus Prima speakers which have just one set of terminals per speakers . I do like Brians idea of mounting in a small box which look quite neat and no doubt help with WAF ! Would appreciate anyones help and advice. Also does anyone have any thoughts on how they would perform with my 2 way speakers which uses a ribbon tweeter and are 86 db sensitivity ? Thanks Chris I read the review of your speakers on HiFi Pig. You'll have no issue simply connecting externally to your terminals nor have anything to deal with regarding sensitivity. However, as you already get a good sense of speed from the ribbon already there, you might find more interesting results using the Takets to effect the bass and soundstage; try sticking them up inside the port and compare wiring them positive to positive against wiring positive to negative. The latter could give you bigger bass to compliment a smallish cabinet. Either way should expand your soundstage. |
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Post by miller65 on Apr 5, 2017 14:40:30 GMT
Great , thanks for the responses guys few things there for me to consider , for a relatively small outlay think they are worth a punt though particularly when you consider the cost of the Townsend super tweeters and like .
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Post by miller65 on Jul 23, 2017 10:08:32 GMT
Finally got around to buying the Takets and installing them,they are currently wired positive to positive and positioned on the top of my speakers in small boxes similar to Brians.Difficult to describe what they bring but seems slightly more weight to the overall sound and some small improvement to micro detail. I have only listened for a matter of a few hours and intend to experiment further re placement etc and prolonged listening for a better evaluation with and without.
I have used some cheap Cambridge audio speaker cable I had laying around to connect them and just wondered if anyone had thoughts on different cables making a positive difference ? any feedback appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
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